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Re: S paceTime

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The bottom line is that you have two different opinions:

Newton says space and time are two separate entities.

Einstein’s sez  space and time are two entwined entities.


Newton's is based on ...observation, and

Einstein's is based on...imaginary mathematical straight lines and
curves.


One of them is ...wrong.





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> There should be a Law, or a Rule...
> 
> that the word "concept" actually means the same thing as the word "opinion".
> 
> "In Einstein’s concept of the physical  universe,.."
> 
> The Law, or a Rule...should be mandated that the word:OPINION should be
> written befome making any statement by Albert Einstein.
> 
> OPINION: In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,  space and time are regarded as entwined.
> 
> OPINION
> OPINION
> OPINION
> 
> to prevent misinformation.
> 
> From now on from this day forward, if anyone post a statment made by Albert Einstein, it should be first followed
> with the word.
> 
> OPINION:
> 
> Because, that's all it is...an Opinion.
> 
> Not worth the paper it is written on.
> 
> For example...
> 
> OPINION: 'Nothing travel faster than the speed of light.'
> 
> OPINION: "Time and space are modes by which we think and not conditions in which we live."
> 
> OPINION: "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once."
> 
> OPINION: "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it’s longer than any hour. That’s relativity."
> 
> OPINION: "Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That’s relativity."
> 
> OPINION: "The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."
> 
> OPINION: "There is no absolute space and absolute time. Time and space are relative to the observer."
> 
> OPINION: "An observer who is in relative motion with respect to another will experience time and space differently."
> 
> OPINION: "A hundred times a day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received."
> 
> OPINION: "Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind before the age of eighteen."
> 
> OPINION: "Space-time does not claim existence on its own but only as a structural quality of the field."
> 
> OPINION: "The special theory of relativity owes its origins to Maxwell’s equations of the electromagnetic field."
> 
> OPINION: "Since the mathematicians have invaded the theory of relativity, I do not understand it myself anymore."
> 
> OPINION: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
> 
> OPINION: "If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts."
> 
> OPINION: "It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."
> 
> OPINION: "Time and space are fused together in a four-dimensional continuum known as space-time."
> 
> OPINION: "In the framework of general relativity, space-time tells matter how to move, and matter tells space-time how to curve."
> 
> OPINION: "The speed of light is the same for all observers, no matter how they are moving."
> 
> OPINION: "The more successful the quantum theory is, the sillier it looks."
> 
> OPINION: "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."
> 
> Do I make myself clear?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Okay, let's jump to Einstein...
> >
> > The first BIG LIE is..."In Einstein’s concept of the physical
> > universe,..."
> >
> > "concept" relates to the mind, and "physical" relates to concrete
> > bodies, concept is relating to the mind as oppsed to the concrete
> > physical  bodies.
> >
> > The author of the definition is pulling a 'fast one'.
> >
> > You cannot trust these motherfuckers.
> >
> > and injects:
> >
> > based on a system of geometry , space and time are  entwined,..."
> >
> > "entwined"?? oh, oh...here come the curves!
> >
> > There are no straight lines or curves in the physical universe...it
> > exist Only In The Mind.
> >
> > That is just a concept/theory/opinion/hypothesis, etc.
> >
> > "In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe,..." translates to...
> >
> > "In Einstein’s opinion of the physical universe,..."
> > "In Einstein’s notion of the physical universe,..."
> > "In Einstein’s theory of the physical universe,..."
> > "In Einstein’s view of the physical universe,..."
> >
> > Nothing is real.
> >
> > Oh my gawd, I'm getting strangled in spacetime by twined vines!
> >
> > The web of the universe is of a mingles yarn...
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, the very next sentence reads: "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."
> > >
> > > Everybody knows the smartest person in the world EVER is Newton.
> > >
> > > "In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities..."
> > >
> > > 'space and time are separate entities'
> > >
> > > "as obvious to any competent observer."
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the it reads: "...ncludes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
> > > > time.."
> > > >
> > > > Yet Einstein admits that he cannot explain in words what the "fourth
> > > > dimension", or even the third dimension.
> > > >
> > > > (or anyone else for that matter)
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, if you study this offical definition of ...spacetime (as einstein
> > > > > writes it)
> > > > >
> > > > > it's filled with falsehoods, discrpencies, bias and contrdictions. And
> > > > > it also is biased towards Einstein.
> > > > >
> > > > > The definition starts off with..."A geometry...."
> > > > >
> > > > > Geometry is not science, it's Math..just a language. And numbers have no
> > > > > existence out there, anywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's all in the mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, for those of yous that don't know the definion of "spacetime":
> > > > > >
> > > > > > space–time
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "A geometry that includes the three dimensions and a fourth dimension of
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > In Newtonian physics, space and time are considered as separate entities
> > > > > > and whether or not events are simultaneous is a matter that is regarded
> > > > > > as obvious to any competent observer.
> > > > > > In Einstein’s concept of the physical universe, based on a system of
> > > > > > geometry devised by Hermann Minkowski (1864–1909), space and time are
> > > > > > regarded as entwined,
> > > > > > so that two observers in relative motion could disagree regarding the
> > > > > > simultaneity of distant events.
> > > > > > In Minkowski’s geometry, an event is identified by a world point in a
> > > > > > fourdimensional continuum."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "space and time are considered as separate entities"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it's about Euclidean geometry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Straight lines is ...'just a theory'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In other words...the lines people are refering to are not in space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Euclidean geometry, Straight lines is ...'just a theory'..it's Math, and
> > > > > > > Math does not exist. It's not even a science! It'a a ...language.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The lines people are refering to are not in space...they exist in the
> > > > > > > Twilight Zone ...in a dimension of imagination  called, SpaceTime.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SpaceTime, a land of imagination contains straight lines and curved
> > > > > > > lines...oh, and they got another theory of curved lines called Spherical
> > > > > > > geometry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Spherical geometry is...'just a theory'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hell, Gravity is 'just a theory!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't you guys got anything ...real????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Haven't you learn anything about Albert Einstein's experiences, 30
> > > > > > > chasing string theory and it turns out to be...false.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Like that chick at SETI spending 50 years listening for UFO's and hasn't
> > > > > > > heard anything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Who told her Life exist at other planets? The lied to her.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your name.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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