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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Energy? |
| Date | 2024-07-29 17:14 -0700 |
| Organization | To protect and to server |
| Message-ID | <66A8307B.8B6@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
| References | <Energy-20240728103722@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> |
There is no one person on earth that can even define correctly the word...Energy. Stefan Ram wrote: > > In a chapter of a book, the author gives this relation for a > system with mass m = 0: > > E^2/c^2 = p^"3-vector" * p^"3-vector" > > . Then he writes, "This implies that either there is no particle > at all, E = 0, or we have a particle, E <> 0, and therefore > p^'3-vector' <> 0.". > > So, his intention is to kind of prove that a particle without mass > must have momentum. > > But I wonder: Does "E = 0" really mean, "there is no particle."? > > 300 years ago, folks would have said, "m = 0" means that there is > no particle! Today, we know that there are particles with no mass. > > Can we be confident that "E = 0" means "no particle", or could there > be a particle with "E = 0"? > > Here's the Unicode: > > E²/c² = p⃗ · p⃗ > > and > > |This implies that either there is no particle at all, E = 0, or we > |have a particle, E ≠0, and therefore p⃗ ≠0. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-10 09:59 -0700
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