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Ross Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On 07/30/2024 10:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07/29/2024 05:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> There is no one person on earth that can even define correctly the
> >>> word...Energy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Stefan Ram wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     In a chapter of a book, the author gives this relation for a
> >>>>     system with mass m = 0:
> >>>>
> >>>> E^2/c^2 = p^"3-vector" * p^"3-vector"
> >>>>
> >>>>     . Then he writes, "This implies that either there is no particle
> >>>>     at all, E = 0, or we have a particle, E <> 0, and therefore
> >>>>     p^'3-vector' <> 0.".
> >>>>
> >>>>     So, his intention is to kind of prove that a particle without mass
> >>>>     must have momentum.
> >>>>
> >>>>     But I wonder: Does "E = 0" really mean, "there is no particle."?
> >>>>
> >>>>     300 years ago, folks would have said, "m = 0" means that there is
> >>>>     no particle! Today, we know that there are particles with no mass.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Can we be confident that "E = 0" means "no particle", or could there
> >>>>     be a particle with "E = 0"?
> >>>>
> >>>>     Here's the Unicode:
> >>>>
> >>>> E²/c² = p⃗ · p⃗
> >>>>
> >>>>     and
> >>>>
> >>>> |This implies that either there is no particle at all, E = 0, or we
> >>>> |have a particle, E ≠ 0, and therefore p⃗ ≠ 0.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Entropy has two definitions, sort of opposite each other,
> >> "Aristotle's and Leibniz'".
> >>
> >> The energy or energeia then relates to the entelechiae,
> >> content and connectedness, what results to dynamis/dunamis,
> >> which are the same word, one for power the other potential.
> >>
> >> So, energy is defined by other definitions, the least.
> >
> > What is Einstein's definition of...Energy?
> >
> >
> >
> 
> It's capacity to do work.
> 
> It's usual that "everything's energy, after mass-energy equivalence
> and the energy of the wavepackets of what are photons", yet, it is
> that quantities are _conserved_ as with regards to changes of state
> and the _conservation of quantities_ for matter, charge, photon
> velocity, and neutron lifetime.
> 
> I.e., there are conservation laws, about Emmy Noether's theorem
> and symmetries and invariance, yet they're really continuity laws,
> and quasi-invariance and super-symmetry, and about running constants,
> and the regimes of extremes, in a usual theory with least action.
> 
> These days sometimes it's "information" instead of "energy" which
> is "the quantity", with regards to free information and the imaging
> of optical visible light and these kinds of things, sort of a
> super-classical and quite modern and thoroughly inclusive sort of
> theory.
> 
> Just like anything else, it's capacity to do work, with regards
> to "least action: sum-of-histories sum-of-potentials" as it's
> the potential fields what are real and then intelligence is simply
> action on information, with, "levers" everywhere.
> 
> Moment and Motion, ....
> 
> If you want to know Einstein's opinion, his last word on the matter
> is "Out of My Later Years", "Relativity", one theory, with GR first.


Okay, let me put it this way...it seems you are trying to make an 'attempt' to
define the word "energy".

You got 5 or 6 paragraphs that seems you are scrounging the Internet in
seach for meanings.

It sounds like 6 different people wrote it!


I'm afraid to ask you ..."What is a woman?"








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 20:43 -0700
    Re: Energy? Eddy Vadász <azsd@ddd.hu> - 2024-07-30 16:46 +0000
    Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-07-30 22:29 -0700
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          Re: Energy? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-31 15:30 +0000
            Re: Energy? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-31 21:02 +0200
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              Re: Energy? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-08-01 03:12 +0000
                Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-01 07:15 +0200
                Re: Energy? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-08-02 10:05 +0200
                Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-02 11:05 +0200
                Re: Energy? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-08-02 13:32 +0200
                Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-02 15:22 +0200
                Re: Energy? Bobauk Guang Chou <gbnbu@agag.cn> - 2024-08-02 09:48 +0000
        Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-31 13:46 +0200
      Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-31 12:43 -0700
        Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-01 10:45 -0700
          Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-01 12:32 -0700
            Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-01 17:03 -0700
        Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-02 08:52 -0700
          Re: Energy? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-08-03 12:43 +0200
            Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-03 16:30 +0200
              Re: Energy? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-08-03 16:38 +0200
                Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-03 17:37 +0200
            Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 18:22 -0700
              Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 19:46 -0700
              Re: Energy? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-08-04 11:22 +0200
                Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-04 08:03 -0700
                Re: Energy? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-08-05 09:01 +0200
                Re: Energy? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-08-04 18:03 +0000
                Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-04 11:33 -0700
                Re: Energy? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-08-04 19:38 +0000
                Re: Energy? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-04 13:16 -0700
                Re: Energy? Verdell Muklevich Fung <vvll@lhvvec.ru> - 2024-08-04 23:42 +0000
                Re: Energy? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-04 22:13 +0200
                Re: Energy? Rictor Tatár <trttr@cirrtrra.hu> - 2024-08-05 11:08 +0000
              Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-05 08:45 -0700
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                Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-09 09:38 -0700
                Re: Energy? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-08-10 10:37 +0200
                Re: Energy? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-08-10 09:59 -0700

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