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Ross Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On 08/01/2024 10:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07/30/2024 10:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 07/29/2024 05:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> There is no one person on earth that can even define correctly the
> >>>>> word...Energy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stefan Ram wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      In a chapter of a book, the author gives this relation for a
> >>>>>>      system with mass m = 0:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> E^2/c^2 = p^"3-vector" * p^"3-vector"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      . Then he writes, "This implies that either there is no particle
> >>>>>>      at all, E = 0, or we have a particle, E <> 0, and therefore
> >>>>>>      p^'3-vector' <> 0.".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      So, his intention is to kind of prove that a particle without mass
> >>>>>>      must have momentum.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      But I wonder: Does "E = 0" really mean, "there is no particle."?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      300 years ago, folks would have said, "m = 0" means that there is
> >>>>>>      no particle! Today, we know that there are particles with no mass.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      Can we be confident that "E = 0" means "no particle", or could there
> >>>>>>      be a particle with "E = 0"?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      Here's the Unicode:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> E²/c² = p⃗ · p⃗
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> |This implies that either there is no particle at all, E = 0, or we
> >>>>>> |have a particle, E ≠ 0, and therefore p⃗ ≠ 0.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Entropy has two definitions, sort of opposite each other,
> >>>> "Aristotle's and Leibniz'".
> >>>>
> >>>> The energy or energeia then relates to the entelechiae,
> >>>> content and connectedness, what results to dynamis/dunamis,
> >>>> which are the same word, one for power the other potential.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, energy is defined by other definitions, the least.
> >>>
> >>> What is Einstein's definition of...Energy?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's capacity to do work.
> >>
> >> It's usual that "everything's energy, after mass-energy equivalence
> >> and the energy of the wavepackets of what are photons", yet, it is
> >> that quantities are _conserved_ as with regards to changes of state
> >> and the _conservation of quantities_ for matter, charge, photon
> >> velocity, and neutron lifetime.
> >>
> >> I.e., there are conservation laws, about Emmy Noether's theorem
> >> and symmetries and invariance, yet they're really continuity laws,
> >> and quasi-invariance and super-symmetry, and about running constants,
> >> and the regimes of extremes, in a usual theory with least action.
> >>
> >> These days sometimes it's "information" instead of "energy" which
> >> is "the quantity", with regards to free information and the imaging
> >> of optical visible light and these kinds of things, sort of a
> >> super-classical and quite modern and thoroughly inclusive sort of
> >> theory.
> >>
> >> Just like anything else, it's capacity to do work, with regards
> >> to "least action: sum-of-histories sum-of-potentials" as it's
> >> the potential fields what are real and then intelligence is simply
> >> action on information, with, "levers" everywhere.
> >>
> >> Moment and Motion, ....
> >>
> >> If you want to know Einstein's opinion, his last word on the matter
> >> is "Out of My Later Years", "Relativity", one theory, with GR first.
> >
> >
> > It appears to be written in English, but seems too differcult to read!
> >
> > i don't understand what happened to the English language...
> >
> > by the time it leaves the USA, ...
> >
> > "Whew! That was a close one." in London reads "That was a near one!"
> >
> > and by the time it reaches Russia...ALL THE LETTERS ARE
> > WRITTEN...BACKWARDS!!!!
> >
> >
> > What the hell is going on????
> >
> >
> > How did the fucking Russians end up with backward letters???
> >
> > Do they walk backwards too?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Here's a spoken reading of Einstein's "Out of My Later Years",
> with 21'st century commentary, if you're interested in some
> background noise.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb7rLSBiE7F41oobFHfUUar7iOwc5vNc3
> 
> The science parts, ....


I was refering to your posts..you have an 'unusual' writing style. 


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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