Re: Android email and Pluto

From	Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: Android email and Pluto
Date	2012-08-23 06:22 +0100
Organization	Triffids Leg Press
Message-ID	<52c397ac89dave@triffid.co.uk> (permalink)
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In article <52c36da632see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> In article <52c3151b42dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

[Snippy]

> > Oh no! not the dreaded ribbon... ;-)

> > After upgrading our Word... Eventually after some months
> > of frustration, that thing forced Fay and I to take a
> > step backwards to our previous version. (Of Word) where
> > we have remained.

> May be I am thinking of someone else, but I thought I
> recalled you saying you did not use WP software, though
> maybe that was just under RISC OS.

It was I Russell, so your memory is holding good.

Generally speaking I don't use Word, but like you, I run a small business
and some of my customers require communication to be in Word documents,
and as you also know, if you are particularly in a service situation,
keeping customers happy so they come back time and time again is
important...
That's the only time I use Word seriously.

Additionally, Fay does her own thing and many of the requirements of her
communications also require Word documents.

> Why use Word at all? More importantly, why BUY Word, when
> there are perfectly decent open source programs around that
> read incoming Word files.

If only life was as simple as you've written.

For Fays stuff she needs Word, and she started using it back at the turn
of the century.
IIRC. It was upgraded(?) in 2002/2003 and that's the version she continues
to use for general purpose stuff.

However, a few years ago we upgraded(?) to Word 2007 where we encountered
the dreaded ribbon.
At that time DocX was the default Word file doing the rounds, and while
the Freeby alternatives you have in mind could read DocX files, unless it
was a simple Document, they re-formatted it/them badly.

As a lot of the docs she received to Edit were very complex, they had to
be edited in a suitable version of Word.
Customers don't like their carefully crafted documents, after Editing
returned in chaos order.

We have a number of freeby apps that'll read and even output files as Word
documents, like Open Office, etc, etc, but as good as they might be
getting now, with her complex documents, they nearly always have a problem
with something.

The ultimate bottom line of course is... If She wants Word, rather than
some other imitation app, that's her choice for whatever reason.

> And for simple documents, Wordpad seems perfectly OK.

Including the ribbon toobars it now has, and I assume it still doesn't
have a 'spull chucker'?

We have AbiWord installed for that sort of thing, but...
Again, generally speaking, we don't often seem to do "simple" documents.

If I'm going to write a shopping list I use Zap on RO.

> For myself, I like EasiWriter.

I didn't know there was a WinPC version of those apps?

As has been noted before, I use OvPro for both RO and Windows.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid

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                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 06:36 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:59 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 22:09 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-23 12:38 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-23 15:35 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 10:05 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:23 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 11:54 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-22 22:32 +0100
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