Re: Android email and Pluto

From	Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: Android email and Pluto
Date	2012-08-17 07:56 +0100
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Message-ID	<804c89c052.chris@o2.co.uk> (permalink)
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          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <fb37bcbf52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
> <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <52bf91c00etim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
>>           wrote:

>>> In article <920082bf52.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
>>>    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>>> [Snip]

>>>> Because Pluto is a text database (which happens to have had added an
>>>> email facility added), whereas Messenger Pro is a real email client.

>>> [Snip]

>>> Pluto enables you to operate automated mailing lists, it manages
>>> distribution list subscriptions, and can perform Email forwarding. As
>>> well as all its textual database capabilities.

>>> MPro can handle fancy text emails. Meh.

>> Messenger pro (RISC OS) does email forwarding, distribution lists,

> So if I send SIGNON it will add me to a distribution list?!

No, but it does have distribution lists. Distributions list does not 
necessary mean automated Mailing list.

>> it
>> does not run mailing lists.

> No. A Showstopper here.

As a matter of interest why? There are plenty of free distribution 
mailing list servers around like freelists, etc. so not really a show 
stopper, even some hosting companies provide x number of automated 
mailing lists within your hosting package.

>> But obviously you can filter mailing list
>> posts.

> I should hope so!

>>> M Pro =/= Pluto.

>>> That MPro is currently being developed is a bonus perhaps, but if we
>>> can hope for 000s more RISC OS users (on lots of new Arm devices)
>>> there have been hints that Pluto could still rise again.

>> So you think somehow we are going to get thousands of new RISC OS
>> users?

> Not really. The community isn't as friendly as it could be, and lacks a
> coherent portal.

It would be nice if we could get thousands more users, but sadly it 
seems unlikely in reality. Without OS enhancements, including the 
ability to be used on a Tablet - which is the way the market is 
moving.....

Pluto's best bet would be, to made Shareware or similar. But that 
would be up to to JD.

>> It would need major improvements to the OS to bring it up to
>> date and the applications overall to stand any real chance. Where is
>> the money coming from?

> Good question and it does apply, though I think the subject was Pluto and
> not a perceived outdatedness of the entire RISC OS environment.

They are connected, to get thousads more users you need a good reason 
for them to move/swap to another OS. Sadly as the OS stands we would 
need major changes to it to give it any chance. Nice though the idea 
is.

-- 
Chris Hughes

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