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From	Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: Android email and Pluto
Date	2012-08-25 15:33 +0100
Organization	timil.com
Message-ID	<52c4d1c33atim@invalid.org.uk> (permalink)
References	(15 earlier) <65122ec352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk> <52c3323345alan_calder@o2.co.uk> <52c3339de0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <52c334e725alan_calder@o2.co.uk> <k12h3g$ut2$1@speranza.aioe.org>

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In article <k12h3g$ut2$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Grahame Parish
<maillist.parish@millers-way.net> wrote:

[snippo]

> The idea was that you had to confirm that you wanted to do it taking
> the onus off of Windows to provide a secure environment and putting
> the blame for any problems back on you.  Most people got so annoyed by
> it that they disabled the 'feature' (UAC) so that they could do
> something useful with their computers.

Windows 7 has a similar 'feature' that you need to switch off unless you
want the urge to place the computer 'out the window' with gravity's help.

We have gone from:

Save File? Yes/No

to

DOS: Save File? Yes/No
Win3: Are you sure? Yes/No
WinNT: Are you really sure? Yes/No
WinXP: I'm a sodding paperclip, or not actually a real person may I help?
NO!
WinVista: Are you really, really sure? Yes/No
Win7: I think we had better ask an administrator, don't you? Of, you are
one? There's no need to swear. How was I to....no, wait...

Later versions of Windows ought to have a quiz at install to determine
whether you are stupid or not and save me the trouble of having to switch
so much of their 'security' crap off. I can manage with the DOS Yes/No
and am not someone who needs to be constantly checked for the stupidity
gene. I still can't work out how, even as an admin user on everything, I
can stop this stupidity in Windows7:

1. Within a 'Save As..' dialogue box, I attempt to save a file to NAS.
2. Error! You need to ask an administrator to do that.
3. Mutter to self: "May I save a file? Yes I may." 
4. Close the error box.
5. Click the Save OK button again.
6. Do you want to overwrite a file of the same name? (WTF?) Yes.
7. The file is saved.
(NB both 'copies' of the same file are created during the second - the
successful - save operation.)

RISC OS & SunFish does this:

1. Drag to Save a file to NAS.

Is this why RISC OS is a bit boring? It. Just. Works.  ?

On what planet is such behaviour acceptable on a wimp operating system
now in its seventh iteration? As with any OS these days, it is evident
that some supposed fanboys have more concern that things 'have been
designed', 'look modern' and are not 'out-of-date'. Aero's great but
don't forget to make sure the filing system works properly and it doesn't
make Windows look stupid and broken out of the box. Derr.

-- 
from Tim Hill who welcomes incoming email to tim at timil dot com.
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              Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 20:02 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 15:21 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 15:37 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 17:33 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 21:12 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 12:02 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:58 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-20 10:22 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 22:16 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 20:49 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 22:47 +0100
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                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-15 23:44 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-15 23:58 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-16 07:29 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-08-16 10:35 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-16 11:49 +0100
              Re: Android email and Pluto Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-08-16 09:21 +0100
          Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 10:53 +0100
            Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 18:36 +0100
              Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-16 22:54 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 07:56 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 11:14 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 13:18 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 14:03 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 19:04 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 09:39 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 15:57 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 21:53 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 22:35 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 23:29 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-08-20 21:01 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:41 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 10:11 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 14:40 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:57 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 10:23 +0100
                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 16:00 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 17:13 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 09:20 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 11:57 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 13:55 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 21:04 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-20 09:06 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-21 20:39 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2012-08-21 22:48 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 06:36 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-22 22:43 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 06:22 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 07:57 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 08:25 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 10:13 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-23 14:11 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2012-08-23 20:55 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-24 07:52 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-24 09:24 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-25 10:24 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-25 11:12 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 19:54 +0100
                Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 07:57 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 10:32 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 15:48 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 08:07 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto workstuff@mail.com - 2012-09-19 22:28 +0200
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:49 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 14:37 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:59 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 22:09 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 08:57 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-22 17:28 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 20:27 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 08:30 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-08-23 11:15 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-23 12:38 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-23 15:35 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 15:20 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 10:05 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 10:09 +0000
                Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 11:54 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:09 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:23 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2012-08-22 12:51 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:33 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-25 16:39 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:32 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 11:54 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-27 12:07 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 13:40 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 12:49 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 14:44 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 13:52 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 17:51 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-22 19:40 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 20:47 +0200
                Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 22:44 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 00:01 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 08:14 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:14 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 13:12 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:22 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 13:13 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 16:11 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 16:06 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-02 16:21 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:45 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-22 22:32 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 23:05 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:42 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 10:15 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 12:20 +0100
              Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:08 +0100
        Re: Android email and Pluto Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 09:32 +0100

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