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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.telecom |
| Subject | Re: BT Digital Voice with no router |
| Date | 2026-05-04 19:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2d5ncm-avc72.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <kjD*E3HFA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <1rul1zp.14rrgxn1p0lxc6N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <ljD*P+HFA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <824ikn9o74.fsf@example.com> <ljD*vnJFA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote: > > Has anyone calculated how much it costs to run a mobile phone? Claude > > estimates £250-£450 per annum. So if mobile is the backup plan you have > > to add that on to VOIP. And you have to add on the cost of fibre too. > > I pay £2.99 a month for unlimited calls, texts and 1GB of data. > Spusu? > Good luck getting a landline with unlimited calls from the usual suspects > for that. > Yes, but your hardware is **way** more expensive and goes out of date much faster. A POTS phone from the 1930s will still probably work with a 'real' landline. For a handset that works on Spusu (or whatever you happen to use) you'll need to replace it every few years or so. > > As there is hardly any reception in my house, mobile phone calls are > > expensive VOIP calls. > > If your mobile does Wifi Calling, you can call using your mobile minutes and > your broadband for backhaul. > More expense, the disater that is 4G which works with some networks, if you happen to have the right handset which works with VoWifi etc. means that if you want to change anything it will likely stop working. > Although for making calls I do prefer using DECT handsets over awkward > squares of glass. (yes, I know hands free and headsets etc are available) > Aha! There's a luddite in there/ :-) -- Chris Green ·
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OT: Steam (was: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-10 20:16 +0100
Re: OT: Steam Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-11 12:12 +0100
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Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:25 +0100
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Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:14 +0100
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