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Re: BT Digital Voice with no router

From Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Newsgroups uk.telecom
Subject Re: BT Digital Voice with no router
Date 2026-05-05 14:28 +0100
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Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> writes:

> That's not very useful for us poor UK residents! :-)  I discovered the
> problem as 3G began to disappear, my phone could no longer make calls.
> Trying to find out whether any particular phone would work on my
> network was basically impossible.  The only approach appears to be to
> use a phone listed by your particular provider as one that works. This
> can vary from MVNO to MVNO even on the same network.

The underlying problem is that mobile phones are crap. There will of
course be a chorus of voices saying that they are wonderful, but these
voices come from seaguls who live on top of mobile phone masts.

In my experience Vodafone and O2 are best indoors, but they have a very
weak signal and resort to wifi. Even if you get a signal, the most
popular networks are the cheap ones, so you will find yourself talking
to someone on EE and you will miss every third word of the conversation
which can cause chaos.

But it's all in the name of progress, and all done in the best possible
taste.

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BT Digital Voice with no router Codger <codger524@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 10:00 +0100
  Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Codger <codger524@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 10:30 +0100
    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Bob Pullen <me@privacy.net> - 2026-04-11 11:02 +0100
      Re: BT Digital Voice with no router angus@magsys.co.uk (Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd) - 2026-04-11 14:12 +0100
  Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-04-11 11:02 +0100
    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-11 11:13 +0100
      Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-11 13:54 +0100
        Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-11 18:24 +0100
          Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Mike Humphrey <mail@michaelhumphrey.me.uk> - 2026-04-11 17:36 +0000
            Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 12:35 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-12 12:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-13 13:37 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-13 13:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-13 22:41 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-03 23:21 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 11:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-04 11:55 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 12:10 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 16:41 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:37 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 17:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:33 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:03 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:16 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-05-06 08:28 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:31 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:34 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 16:16 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:53 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 20:23 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 21:41 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-07 14:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-06 09:40 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 16:27 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-06 16:38 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:20 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-06 19:55 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:39 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 19:07 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 22:30 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 22:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 09:07 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:24 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:49 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:26 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 20:06 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 20:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:09 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:58 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 18:19 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:59 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:33 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-05 13:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-05 14:11 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 14:28 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:40 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 13:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 17:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com> - 2026-05-09 09:49 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:01 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-04 17:35 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-05 12:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 12:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 17:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-05 23:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:30 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:04 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-09 10:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:02 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-10 10:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-10 18:50 +0100
                OT: Steam (was: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-10 20:16 +0100
                Re: OT: Steam Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-11 12:12 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:25 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-12 09:22 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-12 13:22 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-12 14:21 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-12 14:50 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-12 16:10 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-05-13 21:10 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:19 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-12 16:32 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 09:44 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:42 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:09 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router grinch <grinch@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-13 14:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 18:51 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-13 20:44 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-13 13:51 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 18:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-13 21:25 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:26 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 21:31 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Codger <codger524@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 08:52 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-05 22:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-06 09:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-06 11:44 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:18 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 21:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:11 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-05 07:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:25 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-05 13:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:08 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-13 23:35 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-14 09:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-14 18:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-14 18:51 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-14 20:00 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-15 09:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-15 09:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-03 14:08 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Rupert Moss-Eccardt <news@moss-eccardt.com> - 2026-05-03 16:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 18:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-03 22:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 09:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Rupert Moss-Eccardt <news@moss-eccardt.com> - 2026-05-03 16:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-03 18:15 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-12 15:40 +0100
          Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-11 18:39 +0100
            Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-11 19:59 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-12 08:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-12 13:08 +0100
            Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Rupert Moss-Eccardt <news@moss-eccardt.com> - 2026-04-19 14:29 +0100
          Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-11 20:55 +0100
            Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-11 22:08 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-04-12 08:42 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-12 09:33 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-12 13:08 +0100
    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com> - 2026-04-11 11:15 +0100
      Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-11 12:43 +0100
  Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-04-16 13:59 +0100
    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-04-16 14:42 +0100

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