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Re: BT Digital Voice with no router

From Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Newsgroups uk.telecom
Subject Re: BT Digital Voice with no router
Date 2026-05-04 20:13 +0100
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Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> writes:

> On 04/05/2026 19:26, Chris Green wrote:
>> Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2026 16:41, Richmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone calculated how much it costs to run a mobile phone? Claude
>>>> estimates £250-£450 per annum. So if mobile is the backup plan you have
>>>> to add that on to VOIP. And you have to add on the cost of fibre too.
>>>
>>>   20p a year if you don't use it, £40 a year if you only talk to other
>>> giffgaff users, £72 for unlimited calls and SMS, (if no mobile data).
>>>
>> However if your mobile phone cost £500 (which isn't outlandish) that
>> takes 2500 years that the handset would have to survive.
>> 
>
>  £500 for an alternative to a house phone is outlandish.

If the alternative to the housephone is doing wifi calling, then it
isn't the alternative to the landline, it is the fibre broadband which
is the alternative to the landline.

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  Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-04-11 11:02 +0100
    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-11 11:13 +0100
      Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-11 13:54 +0100
        Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-04-11 18:24 +0100
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            Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 12:35 +0100
              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-12 12:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-13 13:37 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-13 13:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-04-13 22:41 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-03 23:21 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 11:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-04 11:55 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 12:10 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 16:41 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:37 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 17:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:33 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:03 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:16 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-05-06 08:28 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-06 09:31 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:34 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 16:16 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:53 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 20:23 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 21:41 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-07 14:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-06 09:40 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 16:27 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-06 16:38 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:20 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-06 19:55 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:39 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 19:07 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 22:30 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 22:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 09:07 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:24 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:49 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:26 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 20:06 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 20:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:09 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:58 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 18:19 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:59 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-04 19:33 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-05 13:17 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-05-05 14:11 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 14:28 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-05 23:40 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 13:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-06 14:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 17:53 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com> - 2026-05-09 09:49 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:01 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-04 17:35 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-05 12:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-05 12:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 17:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-05 23:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-06 10:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:30 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-06 18:04 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-09 10:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:02 +0100
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                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-10 18:50 +0100
                OT: Steam (was: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-10 20:16 +0100
                Re: OT: Steam Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-11 12:12 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:13 +0100
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                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:34 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-05-12 14:50 +0000
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-12 16:10 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:19 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-12 16:32 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 09:44 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:42 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:26 +0200
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 21:31 +0100
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                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-05 11:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-05 22:46 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-06 09:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-06 11:44 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:18 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:13 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 21:36 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:11 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-05 07:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-05 12:25 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-05 13:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-04 12:08 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-04 14:24 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-13 23:35 +0100
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                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-14 18:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-14 18:51 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-14 20:00 +0100
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                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-04-15 09:56 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:14 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 13:29 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-03 14:08 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Rupert Moss-Eccardt <news@moss-eccardt.com> - 2026-05-03 16:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-05-03 18:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-03 22:39 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-04 09:15 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Rupert Moss-Eccardt <news@moss-eccardt.com> - 2026-05-03 16:43 +0100
                Re: BT Digital Voice with no router liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-05-03 18:15 +0100
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              Re: BT Digital Voice with no router JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-04-12 08:42 +0100
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    Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com> - 2026-04-11 11:15 +0100
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