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Re: AC switch fault current philosophy

From	Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: AC switch fault current philosophy
Date	2018-01-03 22:07 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Tim Williams <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote:
> "Don Kuenz" <g@crcomp.net> wrote in message news:20180103b@crcomp.net...
>> RS-232's the old school way and it's probably the most reliable. WiFi's
>> probably cheaper.
>>
>>    Remote Setup, Control, and Monitoring in One Panel
> <snip>
>
> Ah, sure -- that'll do, just remember operation might not be guaranteed
> (Wifi anyone? :) ), so the self contained breaker action is still needed.  A
> keep-alive loop might be acceptable to rely on, whether in very basic
> hardware like a 4-20mA loop, or in software like a serial watchdog.
>
> It'd be a natural for integration into a panel like that.  Though as fuses
> and breakers have done just fine over the last century, it seems unlikely
> you could justify the cost, except in extraordinary situations (like
> aerospace SSPCs).

One of my clients uses such a system in his home. When he's away from
home he VPN connects to his home panel and uses a web browser to keep an
eye on things. He can control any light in the house (and probably
outlets too.)
    Granted, it's a more expensive. But it's also relatively common,
if the quantity of companies that service such home panels is any
indication. It looks like Eaton offers a guy that retro-fits into an
existing panel.

    Remote Controlled Circuit Breakers

    Eaton's Remote Controlled Circuit Breakers offer energy
    savings, convenience, and flexibility, all within the
    smallest breaker size in the industry. Schedule times for
    lighting or building systems to turn on and off. Easy to
    upgrade existing panelboards using remote-controllable
    breakers. Select from plug-on or bolt-on mountings in
    120/240V or 270/480V. For complex systems, see our
    complete line of Pow-R-Command Lighting and Load Control.

http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServices/Electrical/ProductsandServices/CircuitProtection/IndustrialMiniatureCircuitBreakers/RemoteControlledCircuitBreakers/index.htm

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz, KB7RPU

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AC switch fault current philosophy Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-28 12:29 +0000
  Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-28 04:47 -0800
    Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-28 16:53 +0000
    Re: AC switch fault current philosophy George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-12-28 13:16 -0800
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-28 16:51 -0800
  Re: AC switch fault current philosophy "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-12-28 09:03 -0600
    Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-28 17:00 +0000
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piotr Wyderski <peter.pan@neverland.mil> - 2017-12-28 20:21 +0100
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-12-28 11:57 -0800
        Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-29 12:45 +0000
          Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-12-29 05:13 -0800
          Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piotr Wyderski <peter.pan@neverland.mil> - 2017-12-31 10:57 +0100
  Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-28 18:45 +0000
    Re: AC switch fault current philosophy "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-12-28 14:16 -0600
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-03 17:57 +0000
        Re: AC switch fault current philosophy "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2018-01-03 14:29 -0600
          Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-03 20:54 +0000
            Re: AC switch fault current philosophy "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2018-01-03 15:05 -0600
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-03 22:07 +0000
    Re: AC switch fault current philosophy pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-12-28 12:27 -0800
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-28 13:16 -0800
        Re: AC switch fault current philosophy pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-12-28 14:42 -0800
          Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-28 15:25 -0800
            Re: AC switch fault current philosophy pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-12-28 19:04 -0800
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-29 06:20 -0800
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-12-29 15:48 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy krw@notreal.com - 2017-12-29 18:59 -0500
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 17:03 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-12-30 07:49 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-29 19:47 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-12-30 11:42 +0200
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 02:01 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-12-30 22:12 +0200
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-30 15:20 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-12-31 14:12 +0200
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 16:33 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 18:30 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2017-12-30 19:00 -0500
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 21:13 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-12-31 14:36 +0200
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 04:47 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-31 06:00 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-31 17:39 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-01-01 04:19 +0000
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-31 21:38 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-31 05:54 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2018-01-01 22:25 -0500
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-01-02 06:27 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-01-02 10:10 -0500
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Piotr Wyderski <peter.pan@neverland.mil> - 2017-12-31 11:29 +0100
            Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2017-12-30 19:44 -0500
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 16:52 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2017-12-30 23:14 -0500
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 20:33 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2018-01-01 18:11 -0500
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2018-01-01 17:26 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-01-01 18:51 -0800
                Re: AC switch fault current philosophy ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2018-01-02 23:51 -0500
              Re: AC switch fault current philosophy tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-12-31 05:51 -0800
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-29 14:19 +0000
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy glen walpert <nospam@null.void> - 2017-12-29 16:03 +0000
      Re: AC switch fault current philosophy "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> - 2017-12-29 20:01 -0800
        Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-29 23:49 -0500
  Re: AC switch fault current philosophy Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-12-28 12:48 -0700
  Re: AC switch fault current philosophy George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-12-28 13:28 -0800

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