Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw

From	Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw
Date	2015-10-11 02:34 +0200
Organization	albasani.net
Message-ID	<20151011023438.1184d0e0@maxa-pc> (permalink)
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:27:32 -0400
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <20151011021930.15ee19c8@maxa-pc>, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > > classic mac os does not care if the disk is full. it can
> > > > > > > easily run with 0k free.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It depends on application. Error is there, therefore
> > > > > > application can act accordingly...
> > > > > 
> > > > > no it doesn't. an app in classic mac os can't write a file to
> > > > > a full hard drive no matter how hard it tries and the system
> > > > > will not crash.
> > > > 
> > > > Same on ext file systems... small amount is always reserved so
> > > > systems don;t crash,,,
> > > 
> > > what part of full is not clear? 0k free. no reserve. full.
> > 
> > Nonsense.
> 
> it's not nonsense. i've done it.
> 
> > How can you prevent an app not to fill up disk on Mac OS if
> > not reserving space? You get error only on disk full and disk is not
> > full until last byte is written... you know...
> 
> you get a disk full error when trying to write more bytes than are
> available.

Same on Linux and OSX...

> 
> > so if your Mac OS app writes size bytes it can fill up disk without
> > even getting disk full error, you got it now?
> 
> if it writes up to what's available, no error will be generated. the
> disk *can* have 0k available. 
> 
> if it tries to write one byte more than what's available, it will get
> an error and the write will fail but the system keeps on running.

Same as on Linux...

> 
> again, i've done this, usually not intentionally.

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