Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw
Date	2015-10-10 20:07 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<101020152007293273%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <20151011015908.4d91c8e3@maxa-pc>, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
wrote:

> > > > > > unix does not deal well when it runs out of disk space. it's a
> > > > > > serious bug that will never be fixed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You seem to have conveniently forgotten Mac OS X is supposed to
> > > > > be certified UNIX.
> > > > 
> > > > i did not forget at all. macs are subject to this bug too.
> > > 
> > > Can you find example of OS that deals with this problem well and
> > > how it does it?
> > 
> > classic mac os.
> > 
> > if you try to write a file that's larger than the available space, you
> > get a disk full error. that's it. no big deal. the system and the
> > running apps keep on going, without crashing or losing data. 
> 
> Hm, on Linux and OSX ENOSPC is error on write syscall that cannot
> fulfill ...
> I guess same as on any other Unix... 
> 
> > 
> > at that point, you either make some space for the file or connect
> > another hard drive and save it there.
> 
> Same on Linux... and OSX...

nope. 

if a drive fills on unix, it crashes. 

at least apple starts to put up warnings early so that the user can
take steps to avoid it. 

other unixes just go boom. 

classic mac os does not care if the disk is full. it can easily run
with 0k free.

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