Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.telecom Subject: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Date: Tue, 05 May 2026 14:28:56 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <82tssm7zon.fsf@example.com> References: <381ktk9jo6kkmsu7vorq77ba7h2scskfd8@4ax.com> <1rtibg1.1slarp4hfxrlsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <10t7ebv$2sml1$2@dont-email.me> <10t8hp7$37vja$1@dont-email.me> <1rul1zp.14rrgxn1p0lxc6N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <824ikn9o74.fsf@example.com> <2d5ncm-avc72.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> <4s6pcm-lq6b2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="186286"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2v2cXJ9soFewJGc3oP2b9UgKxxc= sha1:nKg3E3oLAaZW0qHBi1wG5cLQBTw= X-User-ID: eJwFwYkBwCAIA8CVVJ7YcUgo+4/gXVjuFDwjPSYmSbMyximUVjfH1dAPbb+Lxd43JP+OaMADOjQSCw== Xref: csiph.com uk.telecom:39493 Chris Green writes: > That's not very useful for us poor UK residents! :-) I discovered the > problem as 3G began to disappear, my phone could no longer make calls. > Trying to find out whether any particular phone would work on my > network was basically impossible. The only approach appears to be to > use a phone listed by your particular provider as one that works. This > can vary from MVNO to MVNO even on the same network. The underlying problem is that mobile phones are crap. There will of course be a chorus of voices saying that they are wonderful, but these voices come from seaguls who live on top of mobile phone masts. In my experience Vodafone and O2 are best indoors, but they have a very weak signal and resort to wifi. Even if you get a signal, the most popular networks are the cheap ones, so you will find yourself talking to someone on EE and you will miss every third word of the conversation which can cause chaos. But it's all in the name of progress, and all done in the best possible taste.