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Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.

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On 4/28/25 8:06 PM, rhertz wrote:
> Using on-the-shelf electronics, you can have AN IDEA about the flow of
> time.
> 
> The human vision system has developed a sense of "real motion", if every
> "picture" captured by our eyes in a film, is presented at a minimal rate
> of 24 frames/sec. This means one frame about every 41.6 msec.
> 
> If I place a camera far away from me, so it can capture my walk from 10
> meters away, and film myself for (say) 10 seconds, I've captured
> sequences of the flow of time, each one 41.6 msec ahead of the former
> instance.
> 
> If I use any advanced camera that can repeat the sequence, but at a rate
> of 100 fps, I can now observe the flow of time every 10 msec.
> 
> Now, if I display in a single picture every captured frame (at 24 or 100
> fps), I really can observe THE PAST FLOW OF TIME with different
> resolution between instances.
> 
> 
> I could refine this using 500 fps, 1000 fps, etc. And that is THE BEST
> AND ONLY WAY TO OBSERVE THE PASS OF TIME, but happening in the past.
> 
> 
> The only way that humans can observe the pass of time IS IF THEY CAN
> STORE AND REMEMBER EVERY INSTANCE, as a camera does. As this thing is
> IMPOSSIBLE, humans CAN'T OBSERVE THE PASS OF TIME in real time, as we
> don't have embedded enough visual processing power and associated
> memory.
> 
> So, WE CAN'T FEEL TIME NOR WE CAN OBSERVE THE FLOW OF TIME. No living
> specie can.
> 
> Science is an illusion, so you are forced to believe (films,
> oscilloscopes, graph from experiments, etc.).
> 
> But how do you know that such past events WERE REAL?



Forget the time, time is by itself meaningless. The notion of it only 
comes when a "change" in two or more physical quantities is discussed. 
That's why I said grab the "space" first.

The relative rate of such changes then creates the tool of "time" to 
utilize to discuss such changes.

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