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Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.

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Am Freitag000025, 25.04.2025 um 00:13 schrieb gharnagel:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 8:21:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>
>> Den 23.04.2025 16:51, skrev rhertz:
>> >
>> > No humans have been able to observe time or register the pass of time.
>> >
>> > Time is an illusion, it doesn't exist. Yet, science depends on almost
>> > exclusively time as a dimension. Like in GR spacetime, claiming time
>> as
>> > the fourth dimension is beyond stupid. Science relies on the
>> > mathematical construct of the flow of time, so theories can go beyond
>> a
>> > specific observation in a given instance.
>> >
>> > If humans CAN'T OBSERVE OR FEEL TIME, which is the actual value of the
>> > use of time as a fundamental variable?
>>
>> What Richard Hertz can feel or not can feel is irrelevant to physics.
>>
>> In physics "time" is a well defined, measurable entity.
>>
>> https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf
> 
> Just because we can measure it doesn't mean we understand it.
> And when we measure it, and different observers disagree with
> our measurement, and relativity "explains" the disagreement,
> might not really bring us closer to understanding it.
> 
> I attended a lecture many years ago where it was explained that
> each of the four dimensions were really identical and we were
> always moving at the speed of light - along one of them.  That
> one was our time dimension.  That seemed to be very satisfying
> at the time.  This would mean that there is a basic symmetry
> between time and space.
> 
> More recently, some cracks in that view have appeared due to
> quantum mechanics.  Vaccaro has published a couple of papers
> about "Quantum asymmetry between time and space," (2016)
> arXiv:1502.04012.
> 
> One idea is that time reversal would be a tough problem for
> causality.

You should think in terms of complex numbers (in three dimensions plus 
time).

This is a 'rotatable' construct, which would allow an 'opposite world', 
where the local time there runs backwards for us.

This is a 'geometric algebra' based on complex quaternions (also called 
'complex-four-vectors').

Now we have always only one direction of time, which is imaginary in any 
given context, but three real axes of space. Those are 'orthogonal' to 
the imaginary axis of time (because they are real).

Now the trick is, that you can rotate the axis of time around and always 
get an 'orthogonal' space, but a different one for any axis of time.

Now we could imagine an axis of time, which points backwards (in our view).

This 'backwards time' had also an orthogonal space, which is filled with 
'orthogonal' matter, too, which is 'anti-matter' in our view.

That anti-world could pass right through everything we see, because it 
is invisible for us.

This concept is actually a little strange, but could explain all sorts 
of strange findings.

I have written kind of 'book' about this, hence you can  have a look:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing


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