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Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.

From bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.
Date 2025-04-27 13:47 +0000
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 17:59:16 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

> On 4/23/25 9:51 AM, rhertz wrote:
>> No humans have been able to observe time or register the pass of time.

What a lie! Humans have found out how much time it takes for the stars
to align and that period is 365 days and a bit more.  That is the
absolute basis for time.
>>
>> Time is an illusion, it doesn't exist.

Time is an interval between events. Events exist. What happens in
between also has existence. Consider time as a flow upon which things
happen. There is the underlying sense of cheating in any illusion. Such
is not the case with time. It flows and keeps on flowing creating
changes in things.



Yet, science depends on almost
>> exclusively time as a dimension.

Time is a dimension, but then there can be many dimensions in a database
record. Like mass, charge, density... The timestamp is there to show the
state at a given time.




Like in GR spacetime, claiming time as
>> the fourth dimension is beyond stupid.

GR like SR is wrong, but immensely clever in order to get funding from
exciting atom bomb fears.  And hope or vision for the future from scifi
stuff involving the Eisnteinian bs.


Science relies on the
>> mathematical construct of the flow of time, so theories can go beyond a
>> specific observation in a given instance.
>>
>> If humans CAN'T OBSERVE OR FEEL TIME, which is the actual value of the
>> use of time as a fundamental variable?

Because it shows the state of other dimensions and quantities at a given
time. We cannot observe time as such, but based on the absolute value of
the year, we can find intervals, and do timestamping.

woof woof

Bertietaylor

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