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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
| Date | 2026-03-01 10:39 +0100 |
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Am Samstag000028, 28.02.2026 um 14:52 schrieb Bill Sloman: > On 28/02/2026 8:28 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Donnerstag000026, 26.02.2026 um 18:54 schrieb Bill Sloman: >> ... >>>>>>> The Greenland ice sheet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_sheet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> would be good for 7.4 meters of sea if it all slid off into the >>>>>>> sea at >>>>>>> once, and similar events happened at the end of the most recent >>>>>>> ice age. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The West Antarctic ice sheet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> will probably deliver 3.3 meters of sea level rise rather sooner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, it could but it is very unlikely that it will. >>>>> >>>>> That depends on how fast we cut our carbon emissions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, yes, humans exhale CO2. >>>> >>>> But, please, don't stop to do that. >>>> >>>> But in case of sea-level rising due to climate change I can assure >>>> you, that emitting CO2 by you has absolutely zero effect upon sea- >>>> levels. >>> >>> You can assure me as much as you like, but you don't strike me as >>> having a clue about what you are talking about. >>> >>>> First: >>>> >>>> there is actually 'climate-change' as a real phenomenon in many places. >>>> >>>> But that isn't caused or even related to CO2, but has other reasons. >>>> >>>> Mainly the water is the key to understand weather. Climate is >>>> strictly local and the result from what is happening in a certain >>>> region. >>> >>> Climate isn't remotely local. When the El Nino and La Nina states >>> show up, they are most clearly visible in the ocean surface >>> temperatures in the Pacific around the equator. They change the >>> rainfall patterns in Eastern Australia. Weather is about moving heat >>> from the equator towards the poles, and it ties into ocean currents >>> that do the same job. We can see the ones flowing on the surface. The >>> deep currents that handle the return flow are now being documented by >>> the Argo Buoy program, but there are only a couple of thousand of >>> them and a great deal of ocean. >> >> 'Climate' was once defined as the mean local state of the atmosphere. >> >> But once the scum took over, that was changed and the word was used to >> describe the word as a whole. > > That happened when weather forecasting became practical. People got to > realise that high pressure areas and low pressure areas travelled across > the country in roughly predictable directions at roughly predictable > speeds. Electric telegraph system got fast enough after the 1850's for > observers to keep track of them. If you think that those people were > scum, you can comfort yourself with the thought that they are all dead. > > Australia's "Telegraph" Todd was one of them, and he was highly > respected at the time (and his grandson, Lawrence Bragg was Australia's > first Nobel Prize winner). > >> This was necessary, because the scandal is meant as justification of >> what I would call 'tax on air', which is apparently planned for the >> first world countries, where 'climate' is more or less OK, even it >> could be a little warmer in many areas. >> >> The real problem occurs, of course, in much poorer regions, where >> pollution and population growth is out of control. >> >> But even if the countries in that region are actually responsible for >> what they do, they are far too poor to allow to extract a lot of tax. >> >> So, the industrialized world is blamed for what they are not >> responsible and what they could not change efficiently. > > The industrial revolution did involve burning a lot of fossil carbon > which has had visible and now well-documented effect on the climate over > the last century. Now that we have got the point where the cheapest way > of generating electric power is with solar cells, and wind turbines are > the second cheapest, we can stop burning fossil carbon and messing up > the climate even more and still manufacture stuff in huge volumes, and > more cheaply and efficiently than we used to. We haven't actually got to > the point where we are burning less fossil carbon than we did last year, > but we are close to it, and China is making a lot of money out of making > remarkably cheap solar cells in enormous volumes (which is why they can > make them cheaply). >> The means to justify this bunk is actually a redefinition of the word >> 'climate', which is now used to describe the mean temperature of the >> entire Earth. > > Climate got redefined when we could collect enough data around the world > to realise that the weather around the world was connected. Satellites > in orbit looking down at the atmosphere did a much better job than > weather observatories on the ground has done, but ground based observers > had been doing a pretty good job for about a century before we had > satellites to do it better. > >> This was needed, because otherwise countries in the first world could >> rightfully claim, that they were not responisible and had nothing >> against warmer 'climate'. > > The low lying islands in the Pacific aren't too worried about a warmer > climate in their area, but they are deeply worried about the effects of > a warmer climate on the ice sheets on top of Greenland and West Antarctica. Didn't you know, that Antarctica is REALLY cold? How could any sane person assume, that the Ice-sheet on top of Antarctica or Greenland would eventually melt? The floating ice doesn't count, of course, because floating ice does not change sea levels, once it melts. But sea-levels do actually fall slowly. That can be seen around the globe at almost any location you like. For instance: the Sahara desert was once the bottom of an ocean, hence global sea-levels had dropped significantly in respect to former sea-floor areas. We can also watch sea-levels dropping in connection with the low level islands in the Pacific, because they are mostly atolls. And an atoll is build from remains of corals and corals are animals, which live in the sea. Since the corals are not supposed to fly above sea-levels (to build the atolls), the sea-levels have fallen in geological times. > These are are going to slide off and melt over the next few centuries, > and produce about 10 meters of sea level rise, which will submerge a lot > of low lying islands. The Dutch sea defenses are going to need work too. Before the ice-sheets of Antarctican and Greenland could eventually melt, they need to become a lot wormer than their roughly minus 60° Celsius. TH
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Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 09:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:33 +1100
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Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 09:16 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 04:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 10:37 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:32 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 23:23 -0700
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-11 13:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 08:27 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:05 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:30 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 19:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 15:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 06:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 18:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 09:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 21:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 13:14 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 02:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 23:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 16:34 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 14:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Isais Kitamura <riiisia@imi.jp> - 2026-03-12 16:37 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:52 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:46 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:57 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 03:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 19:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-11 09:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-03-11 10:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-12 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 10:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 12:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 10:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 20:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 07:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:03 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 09:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 21:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-12 15:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 08:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 17:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 11:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:31 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:08 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:05 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 07:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 22:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Larry Gulyás <ylcl@alyl.hu> - 2026-03-12 12:36 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 09:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 15:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 09:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 13:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 06:51 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 07:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 17:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-28 10:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 00:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 21:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-03 10:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-03 23:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 13:47 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-04 16:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 02:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-07 23:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-06 09:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-07 00:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 07:47 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-07 17:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 06:59 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-08 11:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:19 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 01:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 08:29 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 12:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 20:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 20:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 00:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 07:36 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 09:09 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 14:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 14:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-10 23:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 16:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 08:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-11 13:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 14:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 16:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 16:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 07:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 18:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 09:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 12:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 23:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ronnie Pantelakos <ina@snl.gr> - 2026-03-12 17:38 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-12 22:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Tathan Nagahama <gagngt@mmatata.jp> - 2026-03-12 22:11 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-13 01:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Cristobal Umehara <be@iu.jp> - 2026-03-13 16:50 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 18:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-12 10:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 10:59 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 11:41 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 13:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 23:59 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 07:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-09 21:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 15:24 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 15:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 22:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 16:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 23:26 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 09:25 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 04:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 10:45 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 16:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 08:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 16:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 16:16 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 07:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 18:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 09:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 10:17 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 13:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 23:23 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:05 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 08:38 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 08:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 00:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 03:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 10:13 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 16:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 14:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 17:02 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 01:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 18:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 12:48 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 16:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 04:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 17:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 22:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 14:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 21:29 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-08 09:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 02:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 12:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-27 04:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-28 15:06 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 07:27 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 08:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-06 06:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-28 16:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 07:49 -0800
Re: energy and mass Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-02-28 16:01 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 08:13 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 08:37 -0800
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-02-28 18:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-28 17:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 09:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-28 19:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-28 18:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-03 09:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-28 23:02 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-01 00:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-03-01 00:33 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 16:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-01 02:30 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 22:50 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-01 17:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 09:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-02 02:04 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-02 02:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 19:00 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-02 02:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 19:39 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 08:50 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 10:22 -0800
Re: energy and mass Taylor Mészáros <motor@orkzmm.hu> - 2026-03-01 21:17 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-02 01:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass Winford Balabolkin <od@dnwi.ru> - 2026-03-02 10:37 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-02 02:00 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 18:59 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-03 10:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 03:21 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-11 15:44 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-03-01 07:09 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-01 02:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-01 23:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-01 23:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 08:32 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 02:45 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 00:32 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 15:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 02:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 14:53 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-27 17:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 10:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jovany Márton <md@jjryoto.hu> - 2026-02-27 17:33 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 09:17 -0800
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-24 18:41 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 08:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 22:27 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-19 14:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 03:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:49 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 05:30 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:46 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 05:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 21:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 15:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-20 15:22 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-19 11:27 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 21:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-02-19 17:48 -0800
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-02-20 01:35 -0800
Re: energy and mass Arie de Muijnck <noreply@ademu.nl> - 2026-02-20 08:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 11:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-19 22:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-19 23:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 15:49 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 20:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:44 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 06:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 21:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 15:48 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 18:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 08:47 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 05:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 10:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 11:13 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 16:11 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 21:41 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 21:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 23:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:20 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:34 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:47 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 22:50 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 23:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 08:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 00:38 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 12:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 02:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 23:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 12:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 20:34 +0100
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