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Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject	Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
Date	2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
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Am Donnerstag000019, 19.06.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Siri Cruz:
> On 18/6/25 21:41, Gronk wrote:
>> "Developments took place in several phases,
>> but in the words of historian Mark Walker, it
>> ultimately became "frozen at the laboratory
>> level" with the "modest goal" to "build a
>> nuclear reactor which could sustain a nuclear
>> fission chain reaction for a significant amount
> 
> Nuclear reactors need a device to slow down neutrons so that the chain 
> reaction is sustains at a low power. Weapons do not slow down neutrons. 
> They sustain the reaction at a high power that cannot be contained.
> 
> One way to slow down neutrons is let them bounce off heavy water 
> molecules. Another is bounce off carbon atoms in graphite. In 1943 
> graphite was contaminated with boron which removed neutrons altogether. 
> So Germans decided to use heavy water which they became fixated on. They 
> never could get enough so they never had any reactor or self-sustaining 
> chain reaction. Fermi and Americans realised they could clean boron out 
> of graphite. Fermi got the first reactor running in 1943. They built 
> more reactors; they discoverred a new element in the reactor ash which 
> led to breeder reactors and Plutonium as a fissile metal along with 
> U235. Plutonium could be refined with chemistry.
> 
>> of time and to achieve the complete separation
>> of at least tiny amounts of the uranium isotopes".
> 
> All Uranium isotopes have the same chemistry so it requires very 
> expensive methods depending on slightly different nucleus weights. It 
> requires a lot of electricity, space, and machinery. Only the USA could 
> afford this whilst fighting a war.
> 
>> The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
>> achieve these goals, and that despite fears at
> 
> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just scholarly 
> consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved Germany had no 
> functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.
> 

sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.

But what about *before* the Americans came to Ohrdruf?

How could we possibly know, whether the Germans had functioning bombs 
there, before the US-troups arrived there?

We know, on the other hand, the US-troops HAD atomic bombs, after they 
have left Ohrdruf (and Thuringia).

The US-troops made a very unusual move at the end of WWII and rushed far 
to the east, confiscasted everything and moved back, before the Soviets 
arrived in Thuringia.

I know this with certainty from a former GI, who was a 'black' musician 
from Luisiana and was left behind in Leipzig, Saxonia, in 1945 after the 
US-troops went back west again.

That guy lived his life in the former GDR and must have been a really 
strange 'black' guy, hardly speaking German after the end of GDR and 
beeing actually an US-citizen.


...

TH

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