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Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

From	Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject	Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
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Date	2025-06-25 11:27 -0700
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In sci.physics chine.bleu <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OrigInfoJunkie wrote:
>> On 6/24/2025 3:09 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Samstag000021, 21.06.2025 um 09:50 schrieb Siri Cruz:
>>>> On 21/6/25 0:22, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis
>>>>> have actually built atomic bombs.
>>>>
>>>> If Call of Duty says so, it must be true.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Computer was just invented in the era of the Nazis (actually in
>>> Germany by Konrad Zuse).
>>
>> No, you stupid fucking Lügner, the first computer was not invented in
>> Germany.
> 
> It was. Z1 was more electro-mechanical calculator. More versions were 
> built with the Z3 being the first programmable computer.
> 
> The US built the Eniac in 1945 was another programmable computer.
> 
> UK made a number of electro-mechanical computing device for cipher 
> breaking and the Colossus computer. It was kept secret and unknown for 
> thirty years as UK ceded business computers to the USA.
> 
> Zuse and the USA continued after the war.

It depends on how you define "computer".

If you include arithmatic mechanisms, then the first would be the abacus
from circa 2700 BC.

The Antikythera mechanism was an analog mechanical device from circa 200
BC and was used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses.

If you mean general purpose mechanical computer, that would be Charles
Babbage's Difference Engine, designed in the 1820s.

The Atanasoff–Berry computer (ABC) was the first automatic electronic
digital computer, though it wasn't programmable and was more of an
arithmetic logic unit, conceived in 1937.

The Z3 was an electromechanical programmable, fully automatic digital
computer circa 1941.

The British Colossus was a set of computers and was the first
programmable, electronic, digital computer, although it was programmed
by switches and plugs.

The ENIAC was similar to the Colossus and it was Turing-complete though
still programmed by patch cables and switches.

The Manchester Baby, circa 1948, was the first electronic stored-program
computer designed as a testbed for random access memory. It was the first
working machine to contain all the elements essential to a modern
electronic digital computer.

So if you define "computer" as fully electronic, programmable, digital,
Turing-complete and containing electronic memory, the first was the
Manchester Baby.

-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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