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Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
Date 2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
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Am Dienstag000017, 17.06.2025 um 15:25 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
> Thomas Heger, <news:mbcch0Fk6clU6@mid.individual.net>
>> Am Sonntag000015, 15.06.2025 um 13:45 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
> 
>>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>>>
>>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>>>
>>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>>>
>>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>>>> call 'manuals'.
>>>>
>>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
>>>
>>> Not a good rationalization, seems Nazi-like, and it's not really a
>>> language feature. The modern Chinese-made goods are highly competitive
>>> because production is optimized to minimize costs, including the
>>> translator's expenses. Their
>>> vendors' approach is so that the product should speak for
>>> itself as such without a nicely written manual, especially when it comes
>>> to cheap products. They simply do not care.
>>> But if it turns out that a good manual is important for increasing sales
>>> then be sure there will be a good manual.
>>
>> Products do not speak for themselves.
>>
>> Products themselves are actually only half of what the customers want.
>>
>> Usually manuals, software, warranties, repair service, parts supply,
>> service manuals, advertising of the brand, fashion or similar are also
>> part of what costumers want.
>>
>> So: a good company would take care of their market and would provide
>> things like spare parts or installation services.
>>
>> But China is doing mainly manufactoring and in many cases nothing more
>> than that and simple shipping stuff abroad in plastic bags.
>>
>> Instead of a manual these manufacturers put tiny pieces of paper into the
>> box, which contain almost unreadable advices in five to ten different
>> languages.
> 
> Consumers may claim they want this and that, but what consumers
> really want is what they are really willing to pay money for, so
> as long as a product is well-sellable, there's no necessity to
> take the vocalism (if any) of [some part of] consumers to heart.
> If you dislike it then simply don't buy it. Developing theories
> about inferiority of language and the like is surely not a good
> rationalization.

I personally think, that the Chineese themselves are not really happy 
with their language and their way of writing.

These are very nasty problems, once you want to go into international trade.

Costumers usually want all things possible and for zero price.

But that is't possible, of course.

So, some sort of negotians are requried about would shall be delivered 
and what is not necessary.

Most likely a good manual in the language of your country will a 
standard for all products in the future.


TH
> 

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