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Re: Energy?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Energy?
Date 2024-08-17 08:33 +0200
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Am Freitag000016, 16.08.2024 um 11:05 schrieb J. J. Lodder:


>>> Keep in mind the very first paragrah in Einstein's letter:
>>>
>>> "Some recent work by E.Fermi and L. Szilard, which has been com-
>>>
>>> municated to me in manuscript, leads me to expect that the element uran-
>>>
>>> ium may be turned into a new and important source of energy in the im-
>>>
>>> mediate future." -Albert Einstein
>>>
>> Leo szillard and Einstein cooperated in Berlin and patented together a
>> device, which is called 'Einsteins fridge'.
>>
>> This 'fridge' doesn't cool, however. Its only known use is as part of a
>> fast breeding reactor.
> 
> So you got all that wrong too.
> There are several variants, and several patents.
> The absorbtion cooler works quite well,

There was a group of students some years ago, who had rebuilt the 
Einstein-Szillard device as a project and complained, that it wouldn't cool.

At that time I had read an article, that the Einstein-Szillard device 
has only one known use:

as part of a fast breeding reactor.

So: what if 'fridge' was just a fake name, and the device WAS in fact 
meant as part for a fast breeding reactors?

This would mean, that atomic bombs were known well before the manhattan 
project and especially by Szillard and Einstein.

Is this possible????

I would say: yes, it is.

I had always the impression, that the entire Manhattan project was 
actually used to 'gag' the physicists and not meant to discover anything.

I also think, the Nazis had already atomic bombs, but didn't want to use 
them.

(Atomic bombs are actually stupid weapons and are for all practical 
purposes impossible to use.)

> and other variants of it have been mass produced
> for use in recreational vehicles.

Absorption cooling devices were of course known before Einstein's 'fridge'.

It is this particular design, what we're talking about.


> The Einstein-Szilard liquid metal pump also works just fine.
> Liquid metal pumps were used in fast breeder reactors
> (when these still existed)

Which recreational vehicle uses a metal pump???

> but they are also used in more mundane devices,
> such as soldering machines.
> Your phone may have been made using one.

Possibly Einstein had a soldering machine, too??
(for smartphones?)

> 
>> So, possibly they had build an atomic bomb already in Berlin and needed
>> more plutonium there, hence such a breeding reactor was built and
>> Einstein provided his 'fridge'.
> 
> This is not just completely wrong, it is completely ludicrous,

Well, who knows?

There was already the case of 'Tunguska' and a possible explanation as 
explosion of an atomic bomb.

There were other incidents, which could possibly had been detonations of 
nuclear devices.

This is all not known and too long ago to investigate this today.

And the governments involved have certainly no incentive to support such 
investigations.

So what?



TH

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