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Re: Scalar waves

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Am Mittwoch000008, 08.05.2024 um 14:52 schrieb J. J. Lodder:

>>>>> You can use any other consistent system of units, if you don't like
>>>>> SI-units.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly, and you can use any other system of dimensions
>>>> than the one that is conventionally associated with the SI.
>>>>
>>>>> But actually I was talking about dimensions and how those are defined.
>>>>>
>>>>> That term refers to WHAT is measured, while units define the quantities
>>>>> of the measurement results.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you can invent your own definitions,
>>>> but that is not how the term 'dimension' is used in physics.
>>>>
>>>>> Simple example:
>>>>>
>>>>> you have a distance of roughly 1 meter and want to measure that.
>>>>>
>>>>> you could use inch, yards, forlongs, lightseconds, Angstroem, mm and the
>>>>> size of the emperors feet.
>>>>>
>>>>> The choice of a unit would only influence the numerical value, but not
>>>>> the measured distance.
>>>>
>>>> You forget the only length unit that is still in everyday use,
>>>> the second, up to an unconvenient conversion factor.
>>>> Do I really need to remind you again that the meter has been abolished
>>>> as a primary standard, and that all length measurements
>>>> must (by the definition of the meter) be calibrated in seconds?
>>>
>>> Only such an idiot can believe such impudent lies, Lod.
>>>
>>
>> The dimensions 'time' and 'length' are different, hence you cannot
>> define units of length by units of time.
> 
> Again, your 'are' is wrong.
> What you should say is:
> 'my preferred dimensions of length and time are different'
> 
> Again again, a 'dimension' is NOT a property of a physical quantity,
> it is a property you assign to it, in any way you please.
> (as long as you are consistent about it)
> 

No!

See here:
https://www.me.psu.edu/cimbala/Learning/General/units.htm

Quote:

"There is a difference between dimensions and units. A dimension is a 
measure of a physical variable (without numerical values), while a unit 
is a way to assign a number or measurement to that dimension.

For example, length is a dimension, but it is measured in units of feet 
(ft) or meters (m). "


TH

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