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Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite

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Subject	Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite
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On 2024-08-16 6 h 44 p.m., Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> wrote on 15/08/2024 at 00:09:15+0200:
> 
>> On 2024-07-29 4 h 53 a.m., Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> As discussed during the DebConf24 Python BoF, I'm submitting this
>>> change to the policy to require the use of the upstream test suite,
>>> both during the build process and as an autopkgtest.
>>> You can find the MR here:
>>> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/-/
>>> merge_requests/24
>>> People present at the BoF seemed to think this was a good idea. If
>>> you don't please reply to this message and make yourself heard :)
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's been about 2 weeks since the policy change has been proposed. I
>> believe I have taken in account the feedback and the discussion seems
>> to have died down.
>>
>> As the response from the team member was largely positive, I propose
>> the change be merged.
>>
>> Cheers,
> 
> I'm still against this, and I'm not sure yet whether or not it'll drive
> me to leave the team. The first sentence is ok, but the second is not
> ok with me.

Can you be more explicit on the reasons why you dislike the second sentence?

It only says you should document why tests aren't ran in a package and 
encourages you to open a bug report.

You certainly don't have to write ten paragraphs, a single sentence 
summarizing the issue (and thus letting other people in the team help) 
is enough IMO.

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   ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Louis-Philippe Véronneau
   ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋   pollo@debian.org / veronneau.org
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Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-07-29 11:00 +0200
  Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-07-29 11:30 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2024-07-29 14:00 +0200
      Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-07-29 15:50 +0200
        Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-29 16:00 +0200
          Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-07-29 17:40 +0200
            Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-29 18:10 +0200
            Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-30 10:40 +0200
              Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-07-30 11:10 +0200
                Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-31 16:20 +0200
              Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-07-30 17:00 +0200
                Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-31 16:10 +0200
          Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-31 10:50 +0200
            Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-31 16:10 +0200
              Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-31 16:20 +0200
  Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-29 14:10 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-29 16:40 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-07-29 23:50 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-07-30 03:00 +0200
      Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-30 04:20 +0200
        Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-07-30 04:50 +0200
          Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-30 06:00 +0200
            Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-07-30 06:30 +0200
              Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-30 06:50 +0200
                Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite thomas@goirand.fr - 2024-07-30 09:20 +0200
  Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2024-07-29 16:10 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-07-30 03:00 +0200
  Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-15 00:10 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-08-16 17:00 +0200
    Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2024-08-17 00:50 +0200
      Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-18 23:20 +0200
        Re: Policy Change Proposal: Running the upstream test suite Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2024-08-19 15:40 +0200

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