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Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk)

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zinc is optional at runtime, but required at build time (part of the code
depends of it).

I don't know the package policy of Debian (I use ArchLinux). Is it
mandatarory to build every package (like in a gentoo)? If yes you'll have
to build all the dependency of plugin, jars, ... from source and install
them into a maven repository. It's a crazy task (including that some of
jar, like scala, are not build with maven). And you'll have to create a
package for every dependencies (directs + transitives).

Do you plan to create a debian package for each artifacts listed via
https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-dependency-plugin/analyze-mojo.html
of the gatk project and its plugins ? ( I didn't read the full conversation
yet).



On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:38:44PM +0100, David Bernard wrote:
> >
> > TBH, I don't understand why you package a maven plugin ?
>
> I can understand that from a maven plugin author this sounds totally
> crazy since maven is designed to download what is missing.  However, the
> Debian archive has to be self consistent and needs to be buildable from
> source out of itself.  So per Debian policy you need to build a package
> while beeing offline and the usual build process guarantees that this is
> ensured by creating a chroot environment that can access only the Debian
> archive.  The reason why we are packaging maven plugins is that we want
> to package Java software for Debian that is using this plugin to build.
> The project I want to build is gatk[1] and there is a thread on the
> debian-java lists that exposes my motivation to package
> macen-scala-plugin[2].
>
> > Because the maven
> > regular flow, is to let maven download and install plugins declared in
> the
> > project, on demand, the first time it's used/required.
>
> As I said above from a distribution point of view downloading is not
> possible.
>
> > Now, about your issue, zinc is optional (personnaly I never use it). and
> > first build of a maven project should not be done offline include, first
> > build of a maven's plugin. And from your log, you build the plugin
> offline.
> > You could find the *direct* list of dependency at :
> > http://davidb.github.io/scala-maven-plugin/dependencies.html
>
> Its an interesting piece of information that you personally do not use
> zinc and thus this could be ignored.  However, as you say its downloaded
> at some point in time anyway due to maven's plugin mechanism.  Do you
> see any chance that this download could be avoided and the source code
> checks the existence before trying to access zinc?
>
> I hope I have explained my point clearly enough and you can make some
> sense out of it why we exactly need this offline mode and try to be able
> to skip those things that are not used completely.
>
> Kind regards
>
>          Andreas.
>
> [1] https://www.broadinstitute.org/gatk/
> [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2016/01/msg00050.html
>
> --
> http://fam-tille.de
>

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Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-21 09:50 +0100
  Re: Help needed for gatk Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2016-01-21 10:00 +0100
    Re: Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-21 10:10 +0100
      Re: Help needed for gatk gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2016-01-21 10:10 +0100
      Re: Help needed for gatk Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2016-01-21 10:20 +0100
        Re: Help needed for gatk Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-01-21 10:30 +0100
          Re: Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-21 10:50 +0100
            Re: Help needed for gatk Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-01-21 11:10 +0100
              Re: Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-27 15:10 +0100
                Re: Help needed for gatk Andrew Schurman <arcticwaters@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 00:00 +0100
                Re: Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-28 16:30 +0100
                Re: Help needed for gatk Andrew Schurman <arcticwaters@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:50 +0100
                Re: Help needed for gatk Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-29 22:40 +0100
                Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2016-01-28 19:40 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-30 15:00 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-01-30 15:50 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-01-30 18:10 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andrew Schurman <arcticwaters@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 22:10 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-02-01 10:00 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andrew Schurman <arcticwaters@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 12:10 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-02-01 12:20 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andrew Schurman <arcticwaters@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 13:40 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-02-01 14:40 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-02-01 14:50 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-02-01 22:00 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) David Bernard <david.bernard.31@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:10 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2016-02-01 23:10 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) David Bernard <david.bernard.31@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:20 +0100
                Re: Packaging maven-scala-plugin (Was: Help needed for gatk) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2016-02-01 14:40 +0100

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