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Re: NAND Flash Data Retention

From Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz>
Newsgroups de.sci.electronics
Subject Re: NAND Flash Data Retention
Date 2021-05-20 11:51 +0200
Message-ID <s85bf6$823$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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On 02/13/2021 19:48, Helmut Schellong wrote:
> On 02/13/2021 11:38, Volker Bartheld wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:12:14 +0100, Hanno Foest wrote:
>>> On 12.02.21 21:59, Helmut Schellong wrote:
>>>>> Profis wissen um die mangelhafte Datensicherheit von Speicherkarten und
>>>>> benutzen sie sicher nicht für Backups..
>>>> Das ist falsch.
>>> Du bist nicht kompetent, das zu beurteilen.
>>
>> Nicht, daß es da keine Untersuchungen oder Fachartikel gäbe.
>>
[...]
>> Und dabei kommt raus: Je billiger, je kürzer (TLC vs. MLC, Reserve,
>> Controller, Dateisystem). Je heißer, je kürzer (T*2=L/200). Je häufiger,
>> je kürzer (TBW).
>>
> 
> Ich habe _alle_ Inhalte unter den obigen Links gelesen, jeweils zu 80..100%.
> 
> Fazit:
> o  Bis auf die letzten Links paßt die Betrachtungs-Ebene nicht
> .  zur Ebene meiner Anwendungen.
> o  Die Anwendung im Detail ist vollkommen unterschiedlich:
> .  Es passieren maximal 3..10 bzw. 50 Schreibaktionen pro Jahr.
> .  Unter den Links wurden jedoch 50000..600000 solche angesetzt.
> 
> Ich verwende CF-Karten (Sandisk Extreme Pro) in Kartenlesern.
> Die Dateisysteme der Karten werden an /card anmontiert.
> Ich verwende rsync zum Differenz-Backup, wohl 1-mal pro Woche.
> 
> Am 15.5.2006 habe ich eine CF-Card 8 GB für 214 € gekauft.
> Seitdem wird diese zum Backup benutzt.
> Bisher gab es im Dateisystem (ufs2) keinen einzigen Bitfehler!
> 
> Atmel: AT45DB041
[...]
> 
> Es zählen allein meine Erfahrungen, erfolgreichen Methoden, Ergebnisse.
> Die sind konkret.
> Wenn woanders etwas anderes berichtet wird, als meine Erfahrungen
> es aussagen, zweifele ich halt daran.
> 
> 
[...]

Ergänzung:
----------

alias safeu   '...'
alias safeh   '...'
alias safe+c  'setenv RSYNC_SAFE "-c --del"; echo $RSYNC_SAFE'
alias safe-c  'setenv RSYNC_SAFE "--del"   ; echo $RSYNC_SAFE'

----------------------------------------------------------------------
-c, --checksum
     This changes the way rsync checks if the files have been changed
     and are in need of a transfer.  Without this option, rsync uses
     a "quick check" that (by default) checks if each file's size and
     time of last modification match between the sender and receiver.
     This option changes this to compare a 128-bit checksum for each
     file that has a matching size.  Generating the checksums means
     that both sides will expend a lot of disk I/O reading all the
     data in the files in the transfer (and this is prior to any
     reading that will be done to transfer changed files), so this
     can slow things down significantly.

     The sending side generates its checksums while it is doing the
     file-system scan that builds the list of the available files.
     The receiver generates its checksums when it is scanning for
     changed files, and will checksum any file that has the same size
     as the corresponding sender's file:  files with either a changed
     size or a changed checksum are selected for transfer.

     Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was
     correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a
     whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is
     transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification
     has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does
     this file need to be updated?" check.

     For protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), the checksum
     used is MD5.  For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


safe.bish:
=====================================================================
#!/u/bin/bish

TMP=/tmp/safe_$$
[ $# -ne 3 -a $# -ne 4 ] && exit 2
[ ! -e "$1" -o ! -d "$2" -o -z "$3" ] && exit 3
DEV="$1" MDIR="$2" LST="$3" DIR="$3"
LST= ARG=
for DIR in $3
do
    [[ ! -d "$DIR" -a "$DIR" == "/*" ]] && continue
    [[ "$DIR" != "/*" ]] && { ARG="$ARG$DIR "; continue; }
    LST="$LST$DIR "
done
C="$0"
expr "$0" :C '%([^/]%{1,}%)$'
echo "%n$C: TMP=$TMP"
echo ----------------------------------------------------------------
M=0
mount > $TMP || exit
grep -q "$DEV .%{2,} $MDIR " $TMP || M=1
[ M -eq 1 ] && mount -v $DEV $MDIR || exit
sleep 3

CARGS='-aHAXivh --stats --progress --modify-window=5'

for DIR in $LST
do
    rsync $CARGS $RSYNC_SAFE $4  $ARG $DIR/ $MDIR/$DIR
done

rm $TMP
[ M -eq 1 ] && umount -v "$MDIR" || { sleep 5; umount -v "$MDIR"; } || exit
echo $ARG $LST
echo ----------------------------------------------------------------
=====================================================================

Ich mache zuerst ein normales Backup _ohne_ Option -c.
Dadurch sind alle Dateigrößen Quelle <-> Ziel gleich.
Dann folgt ein Lauf mit Option -c :
Der vergleicht alle Hash-Werte Quelle <-> Ziel.
Bei ungleichen Hash-Werten wird diese Datei transferiert.
Dies ist bisher nie passiert!

Option -c verwende ich nach jeweils etwa 10 normalen Läufen.
Der Zeitbedarf hält sich in Grenzen.


-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Helmut Schellong   var@schellong.biz
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http://www.schellong.de/htm/audio_unsinn.htm

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                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-15 15:17 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-15 17:23 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 17:34 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-15 17:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-15 17:59 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 18:40 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-15 18:11 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-15 20:47 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-16 07:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-16 11:50 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-16 14:38 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-15 18:15 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 18:55 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 10:11 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 14:46 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 18:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 13:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 17:16 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 20:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 01:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 11:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 20:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-22 08:22 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-22 11:40 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-22 12:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-22 13:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Holger Schieferdecker <spamless@gmx.de> - 2021-02-22 13:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-22 14:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Holger Schieferdecker <spamless@gmx.de> - 2021-02-22 16:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-22 19:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-03-01 17:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-15 18:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-16 07:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 20:35 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-16 07:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-16 07:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-16 08:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-16 14:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-16 15:59 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 12:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 14:51 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-18 14:32 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 18:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 13:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 18:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-19 18:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:43 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 20:35 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 01:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 11:35 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 20:02 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 21:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-21 23:23 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 23:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-21 23:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 00:35 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-22 00:39 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 01:04 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-22 08:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2021-02-22 17:15 +0800
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 11:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-22 11:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 12:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-15 18:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 18:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-12 22:39 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 00:32 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-13 09:17 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-13 09:44 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-15 12:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-13 12:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2021-02-17 21:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 20:03 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-13 20:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-13 20:17 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-13 22:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-14 10:17 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 17:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-14 17:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-14 17:38 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:17 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:22 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 20:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 20:46 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-15 07:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 13:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-15 14:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) "horst-d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2021-02-15 14:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-15 16:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-15 18:23 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-15 18:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-16 22:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2021@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-16 22:55 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 14:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-15 14:46 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 15:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-15 15:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 16:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-15 18:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-16 22:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-15 18:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:12 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 13:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 14:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-15 18:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 18:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:14 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 13:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 13:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 14:55 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-15 12:14 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-15 14:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Klaus Butzmann <kb.individual@butzomail.de> - 2021-02-16 20:52 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-22 12:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 14:03 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:16 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 13:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-03-01 17:24 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 12:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:19 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@gmx.net> - 2021-02-14 19:34 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-15 12:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-13 14:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 12:55 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 18:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:20 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 20:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 19:36 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-17 01:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 13:52 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-17 14:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 14:43 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-17 14:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 15:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-17 16:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 16:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 16:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-17 16:52 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:16 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-17 17:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 19:39 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 20:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 19:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 20:12 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-18 21:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2021@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-18 22:28 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2021-02-19 05:20 -0300
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 22:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-19 08:36 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 14:23 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-19 16:47 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-19 17:39 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-20 22:37 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-25 22:17 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-19 09:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-19 12:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2021-02-19 13:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 13:59 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-19 16:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-20 21:36 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 01:30 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-25 22:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-17 17:19 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 19:15 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 19:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-17 19:32 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 20:41 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-18 05:51 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 11:38 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-18 11:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-18 12:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 12:36 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-18 13:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-18 14:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2021-02-19 10:24 +0800
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 13:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-19 14:11 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-22 12:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-22 13:11 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-25 22:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-18 16:04 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-18 21:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-18 21:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2021@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-18 22:22 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-18 22:42 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 22:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-19 06:59 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-19 08:37 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2021-02-19 16:40 +0800
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-02-19 09:46 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2021-02-19 10:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 10:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2021-02-19 12:11 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2021-02-19 10:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-19 10:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-22 13:04 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-22 13:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-25 22:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-26 07:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2021-02-26 06:36 -0300
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2021-02-22 13:23 +0800
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-22 13:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-19 10:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sieghard Schicktanz <Sieghard.Schicktanz@SchS.de> - 2021-02-19 21:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-27 19:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2021-02-27 21:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2021@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-18 22:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastian Suchanek <sebastian.suchanek@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 14:34 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-17 19:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 14:10 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-17 14:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 14:47 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Holger <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-17 16:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 16:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastian Suchanek <sebastian.suchanek@gmx.de> - 2021-02-17 20:03 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 20:49 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 16:02 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 14:22 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 21:12 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 01:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 11:41 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-17 23:35 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-17 14:37 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 14:55 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 15:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 15:46 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-17 15:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Leo Baumann <ib@leobaumann.de> - 2021-02-17 15:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 16:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastian Suchanek <sebastian.suchanek@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 16:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 17:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastian Suchanek <sebastian@suchanek.de> - 2021-02-18 17:58 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 19:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 10:16 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-17 15:58 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 15:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 21:04 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 21:12 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:19 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-14 19:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2021-02-17 20:15 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 11:45 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-18 16:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-18 21:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 22:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-18 23:02 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 23:20 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-19 08:38 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-19 12:23 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 18:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-19 18:30 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 19:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-19 20:07 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 17:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 21:15 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 13:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-19 14:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 14:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 19:01 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-20 21:24 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 01:38 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 11:43 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-21 20:04 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-21 21:15 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-22 11:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 13:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-25 22:32 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-25 22:43 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 10:19 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-19 13:41 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Enrik Berkhan <Enrik.Berkhan@inka.de> - 2021-02-18 21:30 +0000
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-18 23:53 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-22 13:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-22 14:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-19 10:18 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-12 12:57 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-12 18:44 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-12 21:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-12 21:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-12 21:59 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-12 22:12 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-12 22:22 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-12 22:50 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 00:52 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-12 23:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 01:51 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-12 23:09 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 01:48 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-13 09:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-13 17:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:41 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:21 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:31 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Holger <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-13 00:11 +0100
                NAND Flash Data Retention (was: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic)) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-13 11:38 +0100
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 19:48 +0100
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-13 19:50 +0100
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:51 +0100
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-05-20 11:51 +0200
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-15 12:29 +0100
                Re: NAND Flash Data Retention Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-15 15:24 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-13 14:58 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 21:39 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 12:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 18:26 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 21:06 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 21:24 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-15 07:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-02-14 19:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:33 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2021-02-14 19:58 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-14 22:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-15 00:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-14 19:58 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-13 09:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-13 20:29 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-02-14 13:00 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2021-02-14 13:36 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Leo Baumann <ib@leobaumann.de> - 2021-02-14 14:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-14 14:56 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 19:02 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-15 13:13 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Volker Bartheld <news2020@bartheld.net> - 2021-02-15 16:25 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Helmut Schellong <rip@schellong.biz> - 2021-02-14 18:54 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-02-14 19:05 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-03-06 22:20 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2021-03-06 22:27 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2021-03-07 11:08 +0100
                Re: PC-Knopfzelle (ONtopic) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-03-07 11:20 +0100

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