Re: Odd compiler behaviour?

From	Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net>
Newsgroups	comp.unix.programmer
Subject	Re: Odd compiler behaviour?
Date	2016-03-10 22:31 +0000
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Kaz Kylheku <330-706-9395@kylheku.com> writes:
> On 2016-03-10, Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> "James K. Lowden" <jklowden@speakeasy.net> writes:
>>> spud@potato.field wrote:
>>>
>>>> >It's overloaded; it's doing different kinds of addition.
>>>> >Without overloading, you need a different + operator for
>>>> >floating-point.
>>>> 
>>>> Its still addition! The meaning is identical!
>>>> 
>>>> The only reason overloading of the maths op is needed is because of
>>>> current CPU architecture. There is no conceptual difference.
>>>
>>> The difference has nothing to do with the CPU and everything to do with
>>> the language.  Please see abs(3) and fabs(3).  Two functions are needed
>>> because the arguments are of different *types*. That would be true even
>>> on a machine that implemented floating point in software.
>>
>> But the arguments are of different types because of "CPU architectures"
>> supporting different 'kinds' of numbers with different properties and
>> representations.
>
> The wording is "current CPU architecture" insinuating that the
> representational differences between exact and inexact numbers are a
> mere consequence of hardware.
>
> That is simply not so; there is a connetion between how we represent
> numbers, and what is practically computable with finite state
> machines.

Ok, for the 3rd time: For someone with a 'naive' view of 'arithmetic'
that's something which is about "doing stuff with numbers" and the same
'naive' perspective usually considers integers and sums of decimal
fractions represented in the conventional way, ie, as 1.2345 ... etc,
not IEEE 754, 'numbers' while other kinds of numbers, eg, complex
numbers or fractions whose dividend is not a power of 10 are usually not
considered. This implies that

1 + 2

is regarded as exactly the same as

1.34 + 2.11

as these are all just base-10 encoded numbers. That these happen to be
completely different things in certain programming languages is regared
as unpleseant and undesirable if avoidable artefact of 'computers' being
used for calculations and to which degree this involves more theoretical
or more practical concerns is disregarded.

This is - of course - completely wrong as there is no such thing as "a
universal, mathematical definition of +", ie one which would be valid
regardless of the context BUT that's something the overwhelming majority
of people on this planet, CS students and graduates usually being among
them, gladly and determinedly ignore unless forced to deal with it. And
they're justified in doing so as (beyond having to cope with
'computers') this is of no practical consequence to them. Hence, this
argument (for support of operator overloading) won't sway
anyone. Especially considering that it's also seriously questionable, cf
statements I made elsewhere.

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