Re: new iMac

Subject	Re: new iMac
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2015-09-06 12:10 -0400
Message-ID	<xIOdncDHFtXo-HHInZ2dnUU7-eGdnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)

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On 2015-09-06 11:54, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 9/5/15 7:39 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2015-09-04 19:16, Ken Springer wrote:
>>> On 9/4/15 4:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-04 18:45, Invid Fan wrote:
>>>>> In article <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan
>>>>> Browne
>>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-09-04 05:42, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> do new iMacs ship with user guide or manual?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waste of paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a get going guide.  OTOH, turn it on, enter (or not) the
>>>>>> info
>>>>>> it asks for and get whatever you need from the Apple site or many
>>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only problem is if you're having trouble getting online. Having
>>>>> most of the Help info actually on the computer instead of online would
>>>>> be useful. There's no reason iBooks couldn't come with the correct
>>>>> manual pre-installed.
>>>>
>>>> Can't disagree with you.  OTOH, in a few decades of setting up new
>>>> computers I've never needed a guide in getting a computer online
>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris) within minutes of installing the basic
>>>> OS.  That includes a very nasty period for Windows+Modems and ISP's
>>>> that
>>>> had no notion that users might need some guidance.
>>>
>>> The most negatively affected are the brand new user, not the experienced
>>
>> Back then I wasn't experienced.  Managed.
>
> Any computer experience at all when you encountered your first GUI
> system?

Yep, various DOS and other systems (HP-DOS (HP-2100/21MX)).  But there 
was no network involved at all.

First GUI machines were a UNIX system (IIRC) and Windows 3.0.  I found 
both intuitive and easy to use right off the top.  That said, I didn't 
set up the Unix ststem; but I did install and setup W 3.0.  At the time, 
the later was not on a network.

Later when I got internet at home (dial up) the ISP provided the s/w and 
a sheet of paper with the access creds (account name, temp password) but 
little in the way of setup info.  Muddled through.  When I eventually 
switched to a cable based ISP (1998?), the setup guide was crystal clear 
and detailed.

I actually skimmed/perused the manual that came with mine,
> reading the parts that concerned me with what I was actually wanting to
> do at the moment.  I found it to be helpful, wasn't fumbling around,
> wasting time and energy, and getting overly frustrated.
>
>> And it was much harder then, than now.
>
> Since the first GUI machine, I've been able to fumble around in other
> systems, but of course never discovered many of the finer points of what
> you can actually do.

Fine.  But really Macs are easy to setup right out of the box.  Insanely 
easy.

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