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In article <mshn55$n1h$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
<wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
> On 9/4/15 10:24 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <msdodi$jai$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
> > <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/4/15 6:19 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>> In article <msd8ot$3ku$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
> >>> <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 9/4/15 4:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> >>>>> On 2015-09-04 18:45, Invid Fan wrote:
> >>>>>> In article <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> >>>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2015-09-04 05:42, Frank wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> do new iMacs ship with user guide or manual?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Waste of paper.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a get going guide.  OTOH, turn it on, enter (or not) the info
> >>>>>>> it asks for and get whatever you need from the Apple site or many
> >>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only problem is if you're having trouble getting online. Having
> >>>>>> most of the Help info actually on the computer instead of online would
> >>>>>> be useful. There's no reason iBooks couldn't come with the correct
> >>>>>> manual pre-installed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can't disagree with you.  OTOH, in a few decades of setting up new
> >>>>> computers I've never needed a guide in getting a computer online
> >>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris) within minutes of installing the basic
> >>>>> OS.  That includes a very nasty period for Windows+Modems and ISP's that
> >>>>> had no notion that users might need some guidance.
> >>>>
> >>>> The most negatively affected are the brand new user, not the experienced
> >>>> user.  When online help first appeared in Windows, I think it was
> >>>> Windows for Workgroups or somewhere in that era, a friend commented
> >>>> "What good is online help if you can't get online?"
> >>>>
> >>>> At least with a book, you can thumb through the pages and maybe see an
> >>>> image, or catch a snippet of text, that may stop you and you may have
> >>>> found your answer.
> >>>
> >>> In these days of constant updating, printed books quickly become out of
> >>> date.
> >>
> >> That they do.  On the plus side, you can write your own customized notes
> >> in the margins.
> >
> > You can still do that on a iPad / computer with a good PDF reader
> > application.  :-)
> 
> I have a Nexus 7 for using as an ebook reader.  But I've yet to read a 
> single "real" ebook.  All have been PDF files.  LOL
> 
> I assume you are referring to the annotate function of a PDF reader 
> application.  I simply haven't had the time to work with annotations. 
> I've been reading "fluff" PDF files at the moment.
> 
> I'm curious as to how easy it would be to search for a particular 
> annotation, say 2-3 years from now, when you remember you wrote 
> something but exactly what you wrote is a question.  With a paper book, 
> you can flip through the pages and hopefully spot something that says to 
> you "It's here someplace", where with an annotation, you need some 
> specific words to search on.

You can flip through the pages of a PDF by simply changing the view to
Fit Full Page to Window, and then clicking on the scrollbar / pressing
Page Down key. The only issue can be with complicated pages on slower
computers since they can take a while to draw, so if you flip too
quickly you may not see what you're looking for.

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new iMac Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-09-04 02:42 -0700
  Re: new iMac Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-09-04 11:43 +0200
    Re: new iMac Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-09-04 04:19 -0700
      Re: new iMac Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-09-04 04:21 -0700
        Re: new iMac dmoorman <dmoorman4@comcast.net> - 2015-09-04 23:29 -0500
          Re: new iMac Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-09-07 02:16 -0700
            Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-07 10:00 -0400
            Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-08 08:48 +1200
  Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-04 08:13 -0400
    Re: new iMac Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2015-09-04 18:45 -0400
      Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-04 18:53 -0400
        Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-04 17:16 -0600
          Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-05 12:19 +1200
            Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-04 21:43 -0600
              Re: new iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-04 23:50 -0400
                Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-06 09:50 -0600
                Re: new iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0400
                Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-06 11:12 -0600
                Re: new iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-06 14:34 -0400
                Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-06 18:54 +0000
                Re: new iMac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-06 21:24 +0000
                Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-06 20:26 -0700
                Re: new iMac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-06 21:22 +0000
                Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-06 20:26 -0700
              Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-05 16:24 +1200
                Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0600
                Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-07 09:09 +1200
          Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-05 09:39 -0400
            Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-06 09:54 -0600
              Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-06 12:10 -0400
                Re: new iMac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-09-06 11:22 -0600
                Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-07 09:21 +1200
              Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-07 09:15 +1200
  Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-04 15:00 +0000
    Re: new iMac Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-09-04 20:45 +0100
      Re: new iMac Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-09-06 03:57 -0700

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