Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider

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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> FTP and NFS are standard parts of Unix. In fact, OS-X may lose any Unix
> compliance it has because of the desupport of those.

If you really want to twist reality around, OSX was never Unix to start with
since it's based on BSD. Since you can't call BSD "UNIX", OSX never could of
been.

FTP was just an application, it traditionally was there but never was
required as part of any OS. 

NFS is a little different. Although I've seen add-on packages (there was one
for Mac OS9), it really needs the kernel built to support it. It's never
been fully compatable with different os's (solaris vs. linux, linux vs. bsd,
bsd vs. solaris) but still rambles on. Actually at one point, it was a "pay
extra" feature on some like SCO unix. On some others, it was an option to
install, not "just there".

I don't really care about the loss of ftp, it's sort of like telnet support
and should be shelved, sftp works (or should work) wherever ssh is
supported.

The nfs support, or dropping support for it does bother me though. Even with
all the cross-platform bugs one can run into, it still works a hell of a lot
better than the samba/smb stuff. And from what it seems like, it's a new
"thing" apple has been working on, which worries me.

Time will tell but it wouldn't surprise me if in the future Apple reverses
that nfs decision. 

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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  Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-13 07:55 -0500
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2011-04-13 15:56 -0400
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              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-15 08:43 -0500
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-15 18:18 +0100
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2011-04-16 01:36 +0000
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-16 17:04 +0100
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 16:13 +0200
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2011-04-16 01:17 +0000
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 16:10 +0200
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 07:16 -0700
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2011-04-14 16:04 -0400
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 16:03 +0200
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2011-04-14 16:03 -0400
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 07:43 -0400
            Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 15:52 +0200
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 16:56 +0000
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-19 12:42 +0200
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 10:52 +0000
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-14 08:35 -0500
  Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-13 21:35 -0400
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-04-13 22:04 -0400
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-13 23:01 -0400
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2011-04-14 02:41 -0400
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-04-15 23:40 -0400
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2011-04-16 00:59 -0400
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-04-15 23:42 -0400
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 15:45 +0200
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 15:43 +0200
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Sander Tekelenburg <user@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-14 05:23 +0200
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 15:37 +0200
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2011-04-17 12:20 -0400
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 20:24 -0700
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2011-04-14 21:02 +1200
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 15:31 +0200
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2011-04-17 06:47 -0700
            Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 18:34 +0200
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 10:09 -0400
            Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2011-04-17 12:33 -0400
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2011-04-17 09:46 -0700
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 15:59 -0400
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 23:19 +0200
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2011-04-17 15:02 -0700
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-17 17:44 -0500
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2011-04-18 12:43 -0400
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2011-04-18 12:41 -0400
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 17:29 +0000
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 23:17 +0200
            Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 18:30 +0200
              Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 15:58 -0400
                Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 23:10 +0200
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-14 10:04 +0100
        Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2011-04-14 06:50 -0400
          Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2011-04-15 00:39 +1200
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2011-04-14 17:45 +0000
      Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 14:53 +0200
    Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2011-04-14 16:25 -0400
  Re: OS X Lion - breakdown of features, changes - appleinsider Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 14:45 +0200

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