Re: Mac Malware

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From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject	Re: Mac Malware
Date	15 Mar 2017 15:45:06 GMT
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On 2017-03-15, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-03-13 14:42:08 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>
>> So it wasn't that "so much crap" had been left behind by numerous apps;
>> it's that one piece of software for Wacom tablet drivers wasn't
>> completely removed. I get the attraction to utilities that go looking
>> for cruft to remove; but the fact is this problem you encountered is
>> easily avoided by following the removal instructions recommended by the
>> manufacturer of said software. If you always use the recommended removal
>> procedure, you won't have this issue. I'm living proof of this, BTW. : )
>
> Well, one piece for sure.  We cleaned out everything because we're in
> the business of printing, and not in the business of playing with
> computers.

There's really nothing to "play with" when you use the removal method
recommended by the software maker.

> We didn't even KNOW somebody had installed the Wacom software.  I have
> to assume it was done on an off-shift by someone who was using his
> tablet on his own time.

Wacom software installs drivers that require administrative access to
install. Do you let just anyone have administrator access to your Macs?
That seems like a *really* bad idea. Why not use the Guest account
feature built into macOS to let strangers have access in a more secure
fashion?

> In work, our Macs are just tools...

To *most* people, computers are just tools.

> One of them still runs Snow Leopard, for fuck's sake!  We even have an
> old blue and white G3 that runs OS9 in "classic" mode - just so we can
> run an old version of Fontographer.

That's not uncommon. I have two Mac minis running Snow Leopard in my
house. 

> And before you ask, we only use it to make the .afm files our old
> Packaging software requires.  My supervisor isn't going to authorize
> spending another $400.00 just to make an .afm file a couple of times a
> year.

I strictly control what my old Snow Leopard machines do, and I don't
open any services on them to internet traffic due to the many security
holes they have that have since been patched in later operating system
versions.

Anyway it sounds like your supervisor should invest just a little time
in securing your Macs so that unauthorized strangers can't install stuff
on them which requires administrative access.

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JR

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