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Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 00:00:49 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
> 
>> On 11/20/16, 1:26 PM, in article e9ef88Fcmp1U1@mid.individual.net,
>> "flatfish+++" <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 12:17:27 -0500, Wolf K wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2016-11-20 10:47, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> It's called LIEing for LIEnux and it's a tactic the Linux loons have
>>>>> been using for years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of the herd will make up some lie about Linux and wait for the
>>>>> other herd members to come along and back him up. Or, they will
>>>>> completely ignore the lies rather than discipline one of their own.
>>>>> This is the technique they use with that moron 7. Rather than
>>>>> correcting his insane lies, they either ignore them or try to explain
>>>>> them away as "satire". Which they are not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anything to score some positive to Linux hits in Google.
>>>>> It's a very strange culture of losers this Linux movement.
>>>> 
>>>> The main problem with Linux is that every 'droid and his dog wants to
>>>> customize it, and they refuse to conform to anything resembling a
>>>> standard. "Freedom!" they yell, "it's  about freedom!". Standards
>>>> interfere with
>>>> freedom, you see, so of course they must be resisted. On Linux NGs
>>>> (which I now ignore) I was targeted with spitting rage for suggesting
>>>> that standards matter. I've seen frothing hate for Ubuntu/Mint, because
>>>> the Ubnutu people actually want to make an easy-to-use, convenient, and
>>>> reliable desktop Linux. Like Windows or Mac.
>>> 
>>> I've been saying this for years, if not decades.
>>> I do understand the FOSS philosophy and why the core leaders of the
>>> movement are against a single "super distribution" but at the same
>>> time Linux's biggest problem is fragmentation and no matter how much
>>> the community squawks that most any distribution within a family, say
>>> Debian, can be made into any other distribution, it really isn't
>>> practical for average Jane.
>>> 
>>> Had the Linux community pooled their resources behind a single
>>> distribution, say Ubuntu or Redhat/Fedora, 15 years ago we just might
>>> be running Linux now instead of Windows and even if that didn't
>>> happen, a real threat to Microsoft's Windows desktop market would
>>> ultimately result in a higher quality Windows system as well.
>>> 
>>> I'm not opposed to choice but seriously 500+ different versions of
>>> Linux is far too many and if you look at say distrowatch.org, the top
>>> tier distributions like LinuxMint have the vast majority of hits so
>>> average people seem to agree.
>>> 
>>> Having more choices isn't always better.
>>> Have more choices between high quality, bug free software *is* always
>>> better but Linux hasn't been able to manage that yet. As you go down
>>> the list to the less popular distributions, the quality plummets.
>> 
>> Part of the problem with Linux is that it does NOT offer much real choice.
>> Sure, you can have a bunch of DEs and different ways to install software.
>> So? You end up running the same rather limited selection of apps (in the
>> desktop space). And even then, when you have so many DEs the apps are not
>> designed to take advantage of them all so you end up with software written
>> for the lowest common denominator. This LIMITS workflow choices.
>> 
>> And the "advocates" know this. It is the primary reason they freak out
>> when I show them something BASIC on the competition like the different
>> ways of editing a PDF and saving it as well as emailing it. Trivial on the
>> competition and with lots of choice as to how to do it. A VERY basic task.
>> 
>> But on Linux there is not much choice. The task is hardly difficult, but
>> it is not streamlined, either. This is true of many EASY tasks... but
>> whenever I show an example the "advocates" focus on that ONE example and
>> fail to see the big picture. They tend to think in terms of machines being
>> used for a single task... it is as if the idea of a machine being used for
>> lots of things is just beyond their thinking.
>> 
>> But that is what a general desktop SHOULD do... work for many tasks and do
>> most well.
>> 
>>>> That being said, Ubuntu/Mint is a nice distro, but unfortunately limited
>>>> in the available software. Beyond Firefox and Thunderbird, there isn't
>>>> much to choose from. OTOH, some people who want the (relative) security
>>>> of Linux, dual-boot Windows (for work) and Ubuntu/Mint(for the web),
>>>> with a common data drive/partition. Only problem: reboots. It would be
>>>> nice to have a server OS on the machine, so you could switch between
>>>> programs running on different OSs just as if you were switching between
>>>> terminals. But that's another thread....
>>> 
>>> +1 on LinuxMint. I've just installed both the Mate and kde versions,
>>> in a VM, and compared to Manjaro which kept locking up on me,
>>> LinuxMint is quite nice. I prefer the kde version as it has more eye
>>> candy.
>> 
>> I keep meaning to play with the newest Mint KDE... likely will not get
>> much of a chance until next year, though. Right now tied up with real
>> work.
> 
> "Real work"? Like doing screencasts which nobody in his right mind would 
> endure without buying an assault weapon? Just to make certain that shite of 
> that type is never again poured unto unsuspecting mankind

ROTFLMAO!
Just spit my Chianti back into the glass... Glad I hadn't grabbed a
slice of Brie...

-- 
flatfish+++
mariana trench

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Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2016-11-17 23:19 +0100
  Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-17 19:25 -0500
    Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-17 19:33 -0500
      Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-17 19:43 -0500
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                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-18 08:47 -0700
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 23:50 +0800
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-18 11:48 -0700
            Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 09:41 -0500
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                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:05 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 10:01 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:06 -0500
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    Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 08:06 -0500
    Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Bob Chapman <msu79@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-19 21:56 +0000
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        Re: News: Munich city considering a  move back to Windows and Office flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 09:40 -0500
      Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 09:36 -0500
        Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-20 10:40 -0500
          Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 10:47 -0500
            Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-20 12:17 -0500
              Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 15:26 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 15:03 -0700
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 18:15 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 16:18 -0700
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 16:17 -0700
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-20 18:41 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 18:52 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-21 07:56 -0500
                Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-11-22 02:13 +0100
              Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-21 07:52 -0600
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  Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 18:52 +0800
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