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| From | Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software |
| Message-ID | <20775a928fb0a359afd0f7e14deadd98@anemone.mooo.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2016-11-17 23:19 +0100 |
| Newsgroups | alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
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Back in 2003, the city of Munich announced its plans to switch from Microsoft Windows to Linux on 14,000 PCs which were under usage at municipal government. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer flew to Munich to meet the mayor to reverse their decision. But they declined Steve Ballmer’s request and completed their plan in December 2013. The sad news is that the end users were not so happy with Linux and the government was also not happy with the price savings it offered when compared to Windows. Today, TechRepublic reported that Munich is planning to move back to Microsoft Windows and Office on its PCs. As per the report commissioned by current mayor Dieter Reiter, they have started a project to make Windows 10 and Microsoft Office available to employees as a choice when they choose their PC. If majority of the users liked Windows over Linux, they will investigate whether it makes economic sense to continue using Linux as a client operating system. The city’s human resources department (POR) is particularly critical of LiMux, saying that since 2006 when the POR started using LiMux and OpenOffice, later switching to LibreOffice, that “the efficiency and productivity of the POR-supported workplaces has decreased noticeably” – referencing crashes, display and printing errors. “Even 10 years after the start of the LiMuX migration, the users and users of the POR are dissatisfied,” says the letter, claiming that, even after updates, LiMux and LibreOffice are “far behind the current technical possibilities of established standard solutions”. Read more about this story here. Recently, we reported that Microsoft has reached an agreement with the Italian Ministry of Defence to deploy Windows 10 on all the PCs of ministry’s civil and military employees. Looks like Windows on the desktop is becoming stronger than ever. What do you think? Comments: DarthTheme • 8 days ago Some people think that open source software is a good choice just because they are free, but forget to analyze the quality of this software. 13 • Reply•Share › Avatar donzebe DarthTheme • 8 days ago Yep, Free always come with a price that ends up being more expensive. 2 • Reply•Share › Avatar Burning Smile DarthTheme • a day ago Actually its just end users who don't understand how to use Linux as an operating system since they are used to Windows. In reality Linux is FAR Superior to Windows and LibreOffice is about the same as Microsoft office. It just falls on end users not being trained on how to use it. 1 • Reply•Share › Avatar Bryce Motte Burning Smile • a day ago Training cost time and money. With windows half of the training can be done at home on their own system. Desktop Linux isn't even close to the usability demographic that windows is. Just because it can do more for a power user it can hinder a standard user. 2 • Reply•Share › Avatar John Bryce Motte • 3 hours ago The money saved on Microsoft licensing will be spent on end-user training and wasted IT labor. • Reply•Share › Avatar traffikator Burning Smile • 21 hours ago Yes. And it is the end users we are trying to satisfy and make productive. Limux did not work for them after 13 years. It this case and in most other cases, a majority of users had similar experiences. I hope you are not a manager who insist on forcing a software change on employees that will decrease production, increase frustration and decrease effective workers. Jackass! 1 • Reply•Share › Avatar John Burning Smile • a day ago There are a lot of people like you in IT, but none of them understand "grown-up" IT, it's all "how can we hack-job this the hardest for cheap, screw end-user experience". 1 • Reply•Share › Avatar Alin Maior • 8 days ago Learning the hard way 8 • Reply•Share › Avatar Alfred Soyemi Alin Maior • 8 days ago I disagree, because you missed "VERY" in front of the hard way 7 • Reply•Share › https://mspoweruser.com/munich-city-planning-to-move-back-to- microsoft-windows-and-office-from-open-source-software/
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Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2016-11-17 23:19 +0100
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-s software Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-11-18 00:27 +0100
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-17 19:25 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-17 19:33 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-17 19:43 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-17 20:44 -0500
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Re: More trolls purveying "fake news" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-19 09:58 -0500
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Re: More trolls purveying "fake news" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-22 13:44 -0700
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Re: More trolls purveying "fake news" flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 10:04 -0500
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Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 08:08 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:45 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:46 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 09:22 -0500
Re: Running Micro$oft Office in Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:29 +0800
Re: Running Micro$oft Office in Linux Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 09:51 -0500
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Re: Running Micro$oft Office in Linux Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:03 -0500
Re: Running Micro$oft Office in Linux GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-18 12:12 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 09:21 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:28 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 09:50 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 09:53 -0500
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Re: Office 2003 and big monitor flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 10:02 -0500
Re: Office 2003 and big monitor "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 23:22 +0800
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Re: Office 2003 and big monitor "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 10:58 +0800
Re: Office 2003 and big monitor flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-19 07:47 -0500
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Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:00 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-18 08:47 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 23:50 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-18 11:48 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 09:41 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 09:53 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:59 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:05 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-18 10:01 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 12:06 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 18:54 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-18 08:06 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Bob Chapman <msu79@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-19 21:56 +0000
Fake News: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-19 18:56 -0500
Re: News: Munich city considering a move back to Windows and Office flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 09:40 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 09:36 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-20 10:40 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 10:47 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-20 12:17 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 15:26 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 15:03 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-21 00:00 +0100
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 18:15 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 16:18 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-20 16:17 -0700
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-20 18:41 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-20 18:52 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-21 07:56 -0500
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-11-22 02:13 +0100
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-21 07:52 -0600
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 18:52 +0800
Re: Munich city planning to move back to Windows and Office from open-source software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2016-11-18 18:34 -0500
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