Re: Activity Monitor: memory question

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Activity Monitor: memory question
Date	2015-10-26 14:23 -0700
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On 10/26/15, 1:39 PM, in article d97hcaFhr2jU2@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-26, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 10/26/15, 9:36 AM, in article d97354Fe71tU1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
>> Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-25 18:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm still running Yosemite at the moment. You don't just select the
>>>>> process and click the quit button in El Capitan?
>>>> 
>>>> Which button is that ? Some of the unlabelled button that I have no idea
>>>> what they will do if I click on them ? Used to be that Apple's GUI was
>>>> very good at indicating what a button would do.
>>> 
>>> Hovering over the button tells you what it does - in this case, "Force a
>>> process to quit". Seems very straightforward to me.
>> 
>> Well, it does also allow a standard Quit.
> 
> The behavior has not changed from Snow Leopard in this respect. The
> button is effectively the same button with a different look.

Right, thou it used to be labeled "Quit Process".

    <https://goo.gl/0lHrkg>

Maybe that would be better that the current "Force a process to quit" -
given how you click it and then get options on how to quit the process
(forced or not) or, of course, to cancel.

Not saying this is a big deal, but I can see where the old wording was
better.

>>>> Will that give me a choice
>>>> to kill or send a stop request to the process or just kill it ? There is
>>>> no indicatiobn of what it will do. For all I know the "X button just
>>>> closes the window.
>>> 
>>> It has given you that choice for years, and it has not changed in El
>>> Capitan as far as I know.
>> 
>> The fly over text does make it seem like it might just force quit with no
>> further notice. 
> 
> It's been that way since Snow Leopard. Nothing new here. He's playing
> dumb to troll.

I can see where the old wording was better but even I, who am pretty picky
with UIs, do not find this to be a big deal.

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Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 16:58 -0400
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-25 17:01 -0400
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 17:24 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-25 18:19 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:33 +0000
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:32 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 08:21 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 16:53 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 16:47 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-25 17:28 -0700
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:45 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 22:16 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 16:36 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 15:57 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 20:36 +0000
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:16 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:48 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:07 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:10 -0700
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 20:39 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:10 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:19 +0000
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:36 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:56 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 16:01 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:08 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 23:56 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 21:30 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:40 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:16 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:48 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 08:20 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-27 12:10 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-10-27 11:28 -0500
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 23:57 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 20:26 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 08:23 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 00:13 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:22 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:32 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:49 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 00:05 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:46 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:19 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:55 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 14:09 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:39 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:50 -0700
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 14:23 -0700
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:40 -0700
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:41 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:51 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 15:07 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 15:49 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 05:49 +0000
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 19:06 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:07 -0700
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:29 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 02:55 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 16:52 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 15:59 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:12 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:18 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 04:57 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:42 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:45 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:20 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 00:07 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 23:50 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:28 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:09 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 14:05 +0000
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 04:59 +0000

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