Re: Activity Monitor: memory question

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Activity Monitor: memory question
Date	2015-10-26 13:10 -0700
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On 10/26/15, 9:36 AM, in article d97354Fe71tU1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-25 18:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm still running Yosemite at the moment. You don't just select the
>>> process and click the quit button in El Capitan?
>> 
>> Which button is that ? Some of the unlabelled button that I have no idea
>> what they will do if I click on them ? Used to be that Apple's GUI was
>> very good at indicating what a button would do.
> 
> Hovering over the button tells you what it does - in this case, "Force a
> process to quit". Seems very straightforward to me.

Well, it does also allow a standard Quit. Still, the main use is the force
quit. 

>> I assume you are refering to the "X" button.
> 
> You know this because it has been the same button for years. Nothing has
> changed in a long time.
> 
>> Will that give me a choice
>> to kill or send a stop request to the process or just kill it ? There is
>> no indicatiobn of what it will do. For all I know the "X button just
>> closes the window.
> 
> It has given you that choice for years, and it has not changed in El
> Capitan as far as I know.

The fly over text does make it seem like it might just force quit with no
further notice. But what do you want "Select an option to quit this
application"? Not sure how to work it better.

>> Apple should be using precise terminology in this app, not dumbed down
>> words or meaningless icons.
> 
> It's pretty clear what the (X) button does.
> 
>>> I would have thought perhaps since it's a helper service it got
>>> restarted automatically.
>> 
>> I had quit the main Spotify App which took only a few megabytes. But the
>> "helper" stayed and kept using over 1 GB.
> 
> You assumed quitting Spotify would also quit the helper. Bad assumption.

Right: quitting one process should not necessarily quit other ones.

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Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 16:58 -0400
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-25 17:01 -0400
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 17:24 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-25 18:19 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:33 +0000
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:32 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 08:21 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 16:53 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 16:47 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-25 17:28 -0700
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:45 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-25 22:16 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 16:36 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 15:57 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 20:36 +0000
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:16 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:48 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:07 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:10 -0700
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 20:39 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:10 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:19 +0000
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:36 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:56 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 16:01 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:08 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 23:56 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 21:30 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:40 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:16 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:48 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 08:20 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-27 12:10 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-10-27 11:28 -0500
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 23:57 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 20:26 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-27 08:23 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 00:13 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-10-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:22 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:32 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:49 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 00:05 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:46 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:19 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:55 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 14:09 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:39 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 18:50 -0700
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 14:23 -0700
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:40 -0700
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:41 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:51 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 15:07 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 15:49 -0700
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 05:49 +0000
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 19:06 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:07 -0700
  Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:29 +0000
    Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 02:55 -0400
      Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 16:52 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 15:59 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:12 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-26 21:18 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 04:57 +0000
        Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:42 -0400
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:45 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:20 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 00:07 +0000
            Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-26 23:50 -0400
              Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 06:28 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-27 03:09 -0400
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 14:05 +0000
          Re: Activity Monitor: memory question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-27 04:59 +0000

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