Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with...

From	Marion <mariond@facts.com>
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Subject	Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with...
Date	2025-11-08 14:43 -0700
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Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Given your (claimed) Masters degree, Let's assume you own a normal IQ.
> 
> Own? Not sure that is the word you are looking for.

You own your IQ. Or lack thereof... 

>> Assuming you own a normal IQ, how do YOU rationalize the fact that Apple
>> claims to care greatly about our privacy against the fact that Apple
>> receives billions from Google for allowing Google its deep presence?
> 
> Again, good to see you ASKING about things you are struggling to understand.
> That is commendable. Happy to help.

Heh heh heh... 

You're the one claiming there is only one security metric.
Not me.


> Apple has put a lot of effort into keeping user data private on its devices.
> Things like on-device Siri processing, on-device dictation, Mail Privacy
> Protection, App Tracking Transparency, and end-to-end encryption for iMessage
> and FaceTime all help keep personal data from anyone else. Apple also encrypts
> sensitive information in iCloud with keys tied to your device -- so your
> Health data, iCloud Keychain passwords, and Home data are never shared, even
> with Apple.

Why then does Apple location tracking suck in privacy compared to Android?
 From: Marion <mariond@facts.com>
 misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
 FACTS about Apple/Google crowd-sourced Wi-Fi & Cellular location tracking
 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:48:11 -0700
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> Android devices tend to rely more heavily on Google services, which often sync
> data to the cloud by default and don't offer the same level of device-level
> isolation for things like voice commands, app activity, or health and location
> data. I think Samsung has been working to do better here... but I have not
> really followed it much. If you have newer data that shows Android (or at
> least Samsung) has caught up, please share. We can learn from each other!

Why is it that Android has privacy controls which iOS sorely lacks, Brock?

 From: Marion <mariond@facts.com>
 misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
 FACTS about Apple/Google crowd-sourced Wi-Fi & Cellular location tracking
 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:48:11 -0700
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> It is not in contention that Apple does make money from Google by keeping it
> as the default search engine in Safari, but that deal doesn't mean Apple sees
> your search data. Safari also has Intelligent Tracking Prevention, and App
> Tracking Transparency gives you better control over which apps can track you,
> and how.

If iOS is so great, Brock, why can't you have any privacy on iOS then?

 From: Marion <mariond@facts.com>
 misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
 FACTS about Apple/Google crowd-sourced Wi-Fi & Cellular location tracking
 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:48:11 -0700
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> While there are always exceptions, Apple's approach is generally about keeping
> your data on your device whenever possible, whereas Android’s ecosystem leans
> more on cloud processing, which can expose more information to third-party
> tracking.

The question is why is iOS's privacy always far less than that of Android?

 From: Marion <mariond@facts.com>
 misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
 FACTS about Apple/Google crowd-sourced Wi-Fi & Cellular location tracking
 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:48:11 -0700
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Don't even get me started about the lack of GPS location spoofing privacy
on iOS or the lack of system wide firewall privacy on iOS or the lack of
being able to run the Tor Browser on iOS, etc....,

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