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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone |
| Subject | Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with... |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <10eikr3$2vir$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <10ejmkf$1n40$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <690d727a$2$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <10eo1k2$239q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| Date | 2025-11-08 20:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <690fa166$3$10366$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On Nov 8, 2025 at 11:19:47 AM MST, "Marion" wrote <10eo1k2$239q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>: > Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> Apple says they "care about your privacy"... >>>>> Except... when Google pays them not to care about your privacy. >>>> >>>> They do not control Google. >>> >>> Maybe you're right >> >> I am. > > Given your (claimed) Masters degree, Let's assume you own a normal IQ. Own? Not sure that is the word you are looking for. > OK? > > I'm being gracious here... > Don't let me down, Brock! > > Assuming you own a normal IQ, how do YOU rationalize the fact that Apple > claims to care greatly about our privacy against the fact that Apple > receives billions from Google for allowing Google its deep presence? Again, good to see you ASKING about things you are struggling to understand. That is commendable. Happy to help. Apple has put a lot of effort into keeping user data private on its devices. Things like on-device Siri processing, on-device dictation, Mail Privacy Protection, App Tracking Transparency, and end-to-end encryption for iMessage and FaceTime all help keep personal data from anyone else. Apple also encrypts sensitive information in iCloud with keys tied to your device -- so your Health data, iCloud Keychain passwords, and Home data are never shared, even with Apple. Android devices tend to rely more heavily on Google services, which often sync data to the cloud by default and don't offer the same level of device-level isolation for things like voice commands, app activity, or health and location data. I think Samsung has been working to do better here... but I have not really followed it much. If you have newer data that shows Android (or at least Samsung) has caught up, please share. We can learn from each other! It is not in contention that Apple does make money from Google by keeping it as the default search engine in Safari, but that deal doesn't mean Apple sees your search data. Safari also has Intelligent Tracking Prevention, and App Tracking Transparency gives you better control over which apps can track you, and how. While there are always exceptions, Apple's approach is generally about keeping your data on your device whenever possible, whereas Android’s ecosystem leans more on cloud processing, which can expose more information to third-party tracking. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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