Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with...

From	Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with...
Organization	Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date	2025-11-11 04:19 +0000
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On Nov 10, 2025 at 8:19:07 PM MST, "Marion" wrote
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> Tyrone wrote:
>> Because he SAYS he does.
> 
> Look Tyrone, stop bullshitting what happened because you're lying.
> 
> What happened was very clear:
> 1. I said no operating system could use privileged ports w/o admin.
> 2. People on Linux/Android & Windows groups agreed with me.
> 3. You said iOS could - but you're an Apple troll - I didn't believe you.
> 
> But you Apple trolls always fabricate imaginary functionality.
> So I did not believe you (and I said so).
> 
> So stop it with this crap.
> I didn't test it because I didn't believe you.
> 
> It's the first time in decades that an Apple troll has ever told the truth.
> You Apple trolls are constantly fabricating functionality for iOS, Tyrone.
> 
> Why?
> Because you *hate* iOS has lacks functionality compared to other systems.
> 
> It's only iOS that can't do what every other operating system easily does.
> 
> Why can't iOS save photos to a normal user-defined timedate format?
> Where are the wi-fi graphical debuggers on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the encryption container tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the system wide free firewalls on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the location gps spoofing apps on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the true ad free youtube clones on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the basic IPA backup tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where are the system wide foss ad blocking on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> Where's the foss torproject tor browser on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
> etc.
> 
> The very fact you Apple trolls claim all sorts of imaginary functionality
> is the *reason* I didn't believe you, just as Apple trolls claimed this:
>  *It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
>  <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
>  <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>
> 
> Like Alan Baker claiming it's impossible to change the nntp header.
>  *Why are apologists like Alan Baker so fantastically ignorant?*
>  <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
> 
> I could go on & on with you trolls fabricating that iOS has the Tor Browser
> (it doesn't) where you claim that Onion Browser is the same (it's not).
>  <https://onionbrowser.com/faqs>
>  "What's the difference between browsing with Tor on iOS
>   and browsing with Tor on my computer? The primary difference is
>   that Apple requires we use the WebKit browser component they provide.
>   With Tor Browser on Desktop and Android, the browser is built upon
>   Mozilla's Firefox / Gecko component, which offers greater control
>   and more reliability when it comes to implementing proxying
>   and anti-tracking techniques."
> 
>  <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
>  "Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires all
>   browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
>   which prevents any iOS browser from having the same privacy
>   protections as Tor Browser."
> 
> My point is you Apple trolls *hate* that iOS is brain dead compared to
> every other operating system on the planet, where this Brock troll claimed
> that you lost that functionality for "safety" and yet you got no safety.
> 
> The fact you were correct once in two decades is why I didn't believe you.
> When I tested it (based on my own impetus, not on yours) I was shocked.
> 
> For once in the past two decades, you found one useful functionality on iOS
> that isn't already on every other common consumer operating system.
> 
> Like any adult, I immediately and profusely apologized and thanked you all.
> Because I'm an adult.
> 
> You're not.
> You're a child.
> 
> All you Apple trolls own the same three traits of a 5th grade bully.
> a. Your whole life you've been told you're stupid, Tyrone.
> b. So you look to the herd for affirmation of all your choices.
> c. It's why you gloat that you are 500th in a line outside the Apple store.
> 
> No normal person does that, Tyrone.
> Just you Apple trolls do that.
> 
> Ever wonder why?

1. Privileged Ports

Claim: "No operating system could use privileged ports without admin."
Error: False.
* On Linux, macOS, and Windows, ports under 1024 require elevated privileges
-- but services can use them via system privileges, capabilities, or assigned
permissions.
* On iOS, system daemons and apps with the proper entitlements can do the
same.
* The rule is universal for security reasons -- iOS is not unique here.

2. iOS Can't Use Privileged Ports

Claim: "You said iOS could [use privileged ports]... I didn't believe you."
Error: False.
* iOS can open privileged ports -- not from normal App Store apps, but from
system or developer-entitled processes.
* That's exactly parallel to how it works on other operating systems.

3. "Every Other OS Can Do What iOS Can't"

Claim: "It's only iOS that can't do what every other operating system easily
does."
Error: False and exaggerated.
* iOS and Android both impose restrictions; Android simply allows more
customization at user risk.
* iOS limits are policy-driven, not technical incapacity.

4. "iOS Can't Save Photos to User-Defined Date Formats"

Error: Misleading.
* Photos on iOS retain full EXIF data, including timestamps.
* Apps can export or rename photos in user-defined formats, though the
built-in Photos app doesn't expose this natively.
* That's a UX choice, not a system limitation.

5. "iOS Has No Wi-Fi Graphical Debuggers"

Error: Incorrect.
* Apple provides Wireless Diagnostics on macOS and Xcode Instruments for iOS
developers.
* Third-party apps are restricted from scanning Wi-Fi details continuously
(privacy/security), not because iOS "can't."

6. "iOS Has No Encryption Container Tools"

Error: False.
* iOS's entire filesystem is encrypted (AES 256).
* Each app runs in an encrypted container.
* There's no need for "encryption container tools" because the encryption is
built into the OS itself.

7. "No System-Wide Firewall Apps"

Error: Misleading.
* Correct that third-party firewalls aren't allowed, but iOS's network stack
has built-in firewalling, and VPN-based filters (like Lockdown, AdGuard Pro,
or NextDNS) provide user-level filtering.
* Apple prevents kernel-level firewalls for security stability.

8. "No GPS Spoofing Apps"

Error: Misleading.
* GPS spoofing is intentionally restricted to prevent fraud, not because it's
impossible.
* Developers can simulate GPS locations in Xcode.

9. "No Ad-Free YouTube Clones or FOSS Ad Blockers"

Error: False reasoning.
* YouTube restrictions come from Google's API terms and Apple's App Store
policy, not a technical inability of iOS.
* FOSS ad blockers exist using Safari's content blocker API (e.g., AdGuard,
Wipr, 1Blocker).

10. "No IPA Backup Tools"

Error: Misleading.
* True that modern iOS doesn't allow copying app bundles directly (IPA files)
without jailbreak -- but this is again by design.
* Backups can still include app data via iCloud or iTunes (Finder) backups.

11. "No FOSS Tor Browser"

Error: Technically half-true, but misleading.
* Apple forces all browsers to use WebKit, which prevents running Tor
Browser's Gecko-based engine.
* However, Onion Browser is a Tor Project-endorsed client that uses the Tor
network.
* Functionally different engine, same network anonymity.

12. "iOS Can't Graph Wi-Fi Signal Strength Over Time"

Error: Misleading.
* Third-party apps can't access Wi-Fi signal strength continuously -- but this
is by policy.
* Apple's own developer tools can do this.
* So it's restricted, not missing.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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                Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with... Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 05:53 +0000
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