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| From | Marion <mariond@facts.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone |
| Subject | Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with... |
| Date | 2025-11-10 11:00 -0700 |
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Cross-posted to 4 groups.
Gefängnis wrote:
> ......why you are considered a troll worth ignoring.
> You contribute nothing to the discussion snitty.
> You are a nasty vindictive SOB.
> You are a technical zero snit. What you know about technology could
> fit in a thimble.
> So stop googling for answers to topics which you have no fucking clue
> about. It's so transparent and you are not fooling anyone especially
> people who have a vast knowledge of technology.
The Known Exploited Vulnerabilities (KEV) Catalog is a reliable list
of CVEs that are confirmed to be exploited in the wild where CISA publishes
the catalog in CSV & JSON formats, which include searchable fields such as
vendor, product, CVE ID & description.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
What happened in my case, was I had explained that I've analyzed the CISA
KEV database (see source code I wrote myself below) and I asked "Brock" to
run it (or an equivalent code that Chris had adapted for the same intent).
But this Brock guy kept pasting Apple's (admittedly brilliant) bullshit
propaganda that iOS is "safer" than Android even though there is no proof.
In fact, every metric other than malware shows iOS to be worse than
Android, or, at best, about equal (which the CISA KEV database shows).
In some cases iOS is worse (e.g., Pegasus has never been known to exploit
the Android kernel for zero-click malware, while it has exploited the iOS
kernel for zero-click malware many times).
While I don't pick sides, Google proved Apple has never tested even once
huge chucks of the iOS code, which Apple only meekly responded to by
publicly asking Google not to disclose such sensitive information.
All this is in the references below, but this "Brock" fellow refused to
read any of it. He just pasted, in response, Apple marketing propaganda.
But this "Brock" guy kept pasting bullshit propaganda in response.
I was unfathomable to me why he kept cutting-and-pasting propaganda.
REFERENCES:
iOS zero-click kernel exploits are well documented in the public record.
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/12/a-deep-dive-into-nso-zero-click.html
https://citizenlab.ca/2021/12/forcedentry/
Android zero-click kernel exploits are not known to exist in any public
analyses of Pegasus/Chrysaor exploits (which requires more references):
https://www.forensicxs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lookout-pegasus-android-technical-analysis.pdf
https://info.lookout.com/rs/051-ESQ-475/images/lookout-pegasus-technical-analysis.pdf
https://tech4humanitylab.clahs.vt.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Occasional-Paper-1.pdf
https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/lookout-pegasusandroidtechnicalanalysis/74542989
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2404.19677.pdf
Below is the code I wrote to analyse the KEV database for iOS vs Android.
The PowerShell script works on all 3 platforms (macOS, Linux & Windows).
@echo off
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: This is kev.bat v1.0
:: Usage: C:\> kev.bat
:: Extensible Windows batch/powershell script to parse csv/json CISA KEV db
:: kev.ps1 must reside in same folder as kev.bat
:: kev.bat calls kev.ps1 using powershell with execution policy bypass
:: Output pauses so user can read results before window closes
:: The goal is to determine if Apple is telling the truth when Apple "says"
:: they locked iOS users into a walled prison garden "for their own safety".
:: As one step of that goal, the question to answer is simply thus:
:: Q: What are cumulative exploits between iPhone/iPad & Android flagships?
:: <https://github.com/cisagov/kev-data>
:: <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities>
:: <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
:: Note this db is only about 6% of all known vulnerabilities!
:: <medium.com/@yotamperkal/cisa-kev-a-balanced-perspective-ff3856e69ba9>
:: That's because the KEV db only contains exploits meeting these criteria:
:: 1. The exploit has a valid CVE ID.
:: 2. There is reliable evidence of active exploitation.
:: 3. A clear remediation action is already available to the general public.
:: The KEV database is in three files:
:: a. CSV (Comma-Separated Values)
:: <github.com/cisagov/kev-data/blob/develop/known_exploited_vulnerabilities.csv>
:: b. JSON (JavaScript Object Notation)
:: <github.com/cisagov/kev-data/blob/develop/known_exploited_vulnerabilities.json>
:: c. JSON Schema (Defines the structure of the JSON data)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: REVISION HISTORY:
:: Version v1.0 20250929 (45L)
:: Invokes powershell to parse csv/json CISA database for iOS vs Android
:: Version 1.1 2025???? (??L)
:: TBD
:: Version 1.2 2025???? (??L)
:: TBD
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: 72 char 1234567890 1234567890 1234567890 1234567890 1234567890 1234567890 12
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
set "PS_SCRIPT=kev.ps1" REM iOS vs Android known patched exploits
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File "%~dp0%PS_SCRIPT%"
pause
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: End of kev.bat
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
This works on all three platforms (macOS, Linux & Windows).
###############################################################################
# Define script version
$scriptVersion = "kev.ps1 version 2.4 20250930"
## An Extensible cross-platform batch/powershell script to parse CISA KEV db
## Analyzes the CISA Known Exploited Vulnerabilities (KEV) database
## to compare iOS and Android-related security threats.
## a. Downloads lates KEV CSV or uses a local copy of the KEV CSV file
## b. Filters out irrelevant entries (e.g., smart appliances, printers)
## c. Uses keywords & vendor-product logic for platform-specific exploits
## d. Identifies shared vulnerabilities affecting both ecosystems
## e. Logs results to timestamped files in a clean ./logs directory
## f. Outputs Apple iOS vs Android exploit summaries to console & log files
## All logs are saved in the ./logs directory:
## A. ios_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
## B. android_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
## C. shared_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
## D. kev_output_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log (summary)
## Note the CISA KEV db lists only about 6% of all known vulnerabilities!
## <medium.com/@yotamperkal/cisa-kev-a-balanced-perspective-ff3856e69ba9>
## That's because the KEV db only contains exploits meeting these criteria:
## 1. The exploit has a valid CVE ID.
## 2. There is reliable evidence of active exploitation.
## 3. A clear remediation action is already available to the general public.
###############################################################################
## Windows Usage: C:\> kev.bat
## Where kev.bat is the following three lines of code:
## set "PS_SCRIPT=kev.ps1" REM iOS vs Android known patched exploits
## powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File "%~dp0%PS_SCRIPT%"
## pause
## Linux/macOS Usage: $ pwsh ./kev.ps1
## Requires PowerShell Core (pwsh) <https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell>
## Make sure execution policy allows script execution:
## $ pwsh -Command "Set-ExecutionPolicy -Scope Process -ExecutionPolicy Bypass"
###############################################################################
## Version 1.0 20250829 (41L)
## Extensible Windows batch/powershell script to parse csv/json CISA KEV db
## Uses powershell to parse csv/json CISA database for iOS vs Android
## Added comment discipline rules for ASCII-only and no oxford comma
## CSV downloaded from GitHub mirror of CISA KEV database
## Keyword logic uses lowercase match on vendor, product, and vuln name
## Matching uses wildcard logic with simple substring detection
## Results printed to console with Write-Host
## Script can be extended to log output or refine keyword logic
## Verson 1.1 20250929 (56L)
## Adds time-stamped output file to current directory
## Uses Get-Date with custom format for filename
## Output file includes iOS and Android known exploit counts
## Output file UTF8 encoding for platform/editor compatibility
## Version 1.2 20250929 (68L)
## Expands keyword logic for iOS and Android ecosystems
## Adds ipad, watchos, macos, pixel, samsung, qualcomm, mediatek
## Improves platform distinction across shared components like WebKit
## Android common vendors & chipsets: pixel, samsung, qualcomm, mediatek
## iOS platforms: ipad, ipados, watchos, macos
## Used Join-Path to make filespecs usable on Windows/Linux/macOS
## Version 1.3 20250929 (87L)
## Added an output log to a separate file of each match with its source line
## Modified filespecs to enable macOS/Linux PowerCore portability
## Version 1.4 20250929 (97L)
## Included CVE ID in logs (Adds traceability & audit value)
## Added platform detection (Join-Path & $PWD)
## Add toggle for local file (avoid unnecessary d/l when testing)
## Version 1.5 20250929 (108L)
## Add exclusion filtering logic (e.g., samsung TVs)
## Exclusion filtering removes Apple smart home devices.
## Version 1.6 20250929 (130L)
## Added shared-match detection to avoid double counting overlapping attack
## surfaces in platform-specific summaries
## Version 1.7 20250929 (141L)
## Added vendor-product dictionary-style mapping to excluse false positives
## like "Samsung tv" or "refrigerator" or "Apple tv" or "homepod"
## Version 1.8 20250929 (148L)
## Refined keyword logic for deeper iOS & Android exploit detection
## around shared components like WebKit & cryptographic modules
## Apple includes subsystems like secure enclave, coremedia & launchd
## Android includes cryptographic modules & shared components like
## keymaster, webkit & play services.
## Version 1.9 20250929 (163L)
## Moved all log files into ./logs directory to reduce clutter
## Added usage instructions for macOS/Linux (pwsh)
## Version 2.0 20250929 (207L)
## Added toggle to include/exclude macOS from iOS counts
## Fixed platform detection (Join-Path & $PWD) console output
## Version 2.1 20250929 (212L)
## Added output of the1 PowerShell version (in case of mismatches)
## Version 2.2 20250930 (219L)
## Added date in the console output
## Version 2.3 20250930 (228L)
## Removed false positives from desktop and server-side CVEs
## Added 'chromium' & 'mojo' to iOS & Android keyword lists
## Improved detection of shared browser & sandbox escape exploits
## Added exclusion for Fortinet, Cisco, Oracle & Adobe using keywords of
## fortinet, fortios, fortiproxy, cisco, oracle, adobe, jenkins, mozilla,
## nagios, redis, qnap, crushftp
## Version 2.4 20250930 (231L)
## Added the script version to the console output for auditing purposes
###############################################################################
# Platform detection (v2.3)
$platform = $PSVersionTable.PSEdition
$version = $PSVersionTable.PSVersion
if ($platform -eq "Desktop") {
Write-Host "Running on platform: Windows PowerShell"
} elseif ($platform -eq "Core") {
if ($IsWindows) {
Write-Host "Running on platform: Windows (pwsh)"
} elseif ($IsLinux) {
Write-Host "Running on platform: Linux (pwsh)"
} elseif ($IsMacOS) {
Write-Host "Running on platform: macOS (pwsh)"
} else {
Write-Host "Running on platform: Unknown Core edition"
}
} else {
Write-Host "Running on platform: Unknown"
}
Write-Host "PowerShell version: $version"
# Download the KEV CSV from GitHub
$useLocalFile = $false # Set to $true for testing of existing downloads
$useLocalFile = $true # Set to $false to force download
$includeMacOS = $true # Set to $false to exclude macOS in iOS counts
$includeMacOS = $false # Set to $true to include macOS in iOS counts
if ($useLocalFile) {
$csvPath = Join-Path -Path $PWD -ChildPath "kev.csv"
Write-Host "Using local file: $csvPath"
} else {
$csvUrl = "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cisagov/kev-data/develop/known_exploited_vulnerabilities.csv"
$csvPath = Join-Path -Path $PWD -ChildPath "kev.csv"
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $csvUrl -OutFile $csvPath
Write-Host "Downloaded fresh file: $csvPath"
}
# Define keyword logic for iOS and Android
# iOS includes Apple platforms and WebKit-based browsers
$iosKeywords = @(
"apple", "ios", "ipados", "watchos", "webkit", "safari",
"secure enclave", "coregraphics", "coremedia", "corefoundation",
"springboard", "launchd", "sandbox", "chromium", "mojo"
)
if ($includeMacOS) {
$iosKeywords += "macos"
}
# Android includes Google platforms and common Android vendors
$androidKeywords = @(
"android", "google", "pixel", "samsung", "qualcomm", "mediatek",
"play services", "keymaster", "keystore", "secure element", "omapi",
"webkit", "chromium", "mojo"
)
# Initialize counters for each platform
$iosCount = 0
$androidCount = 0
$timestamp = Get-Date -Format "yyyyMMdd_HHmmss"
$logDir = Join-Path -Path "." -ChildPath "logs"
if (-not (Test-Path $logDir)) {
New-Item -ItemType Directory -Path $logDir | Out-Null
}
$iosLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "ios_matches_$timestamp.log"
$androidLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "android_matches_$timestamp.log"
$sharedLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "shared_matches_$timestamp.log"
$outputFile = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "kev_output_$timestamp.log"
# Parse KEV CSV and count keyword matches
$excludeKeywords = @(
"refrigerator", "tv", "washer", "dryer", "smart appliance", "iot", "industrial", "printer",
"apple tv", "homepod", "airtag", "fortinet", "fortios", "fortiproxy", "cisco",
"oracle", "adobe", "jenkins", "mozilla", "nagios", "redis", "qnap", "crushftp"
)
$vendorProductMap = @{
"samsung" = @("galaxy", "android", "mobile", "tablet")
"qualcomm" = @("snapdragon", "modem", "chipset")
"apple" = @("iphone", "ipad", "ios", "watchos", "macbook")
}
if ($includeMacOS) {
$vendorProductMap["apple"] += "macos"
}
Import-Csv $csvPath | ForEach-Object {
$text = ($_.vendorProject + " " + $_.product + " " + $_.vulnerabilityName).ToLower()
$vendor = $_.vendorProject.ToLower()
$product = $_.product.ToLower()
# Skip irrelevant matches
if ($excludeKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }) {
return
}
# Skip mismatched vendor-product combos
if ($vendorProductMap.ContainsKey($vendor)) {
$validProducts = $vendorProductMap[$vendor]
if (-not ($validProducts | Where-Object { $product -like "*$_*" })) {
return
}
}
$logEntry = "$($_.cveID): $text"
$iosMatch = $iosKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }
$androidMatch = $androidKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }
if ($iosMatch -and $androidMatch) {
$iosCount++
$androidCount++
Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
} elseif ($iosMatch) {
$iosCount++
Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
} elseif ($androidMatch) {
$androidCount++
Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
}
}
# Output results to console
Write-Host "KEV vulnerability summary ($scriptVersion) for: $(Get-Date -Format 'yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss')"
Write-Host "Estimated Apple-iOS-related exploits: $iosCount"
Write-Host "Estimated Android-related exploits: $androidCount"
if (Test-Path $sharedLogPath) {
$sharedCount = (Get-Content $sharedLogPath | Measure-Object).Count
Write-Host "Estimated shared exploits: $sharedCount"
Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "Shared iOS/Android vulnerabilities:`n"
Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "`nTotal shared matches: $sharedCount"
} else {
Write-Host "Estimated shared exploits: 0"
}
# Create time-stamped output file in current directory
# $outputFile = "kev_output_$timestamp.log"
# Allow for macOS/Linux PowerShell Core portability (filespec syntax)
# Write results to file
@(
"KEV vulnerability summary $timestamp",
"Estimated Apple-iOS-related exploits: $iosCount",
"Estimated Android-related exploits: $androidCount"
) | Out-File -FilePath $outputFile -Encoding UTF8
# Append a summary line to each match log (v1.4)
Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "`nTotal iOS matches: $iosCount"
Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "`nTotal Android matches: $androidCount"
###############################################################################
## end of kev.ps1
###############################################################################
--
An intelligent person listens to what Apple & Google say but then uses
his intellect to also fuse what they both say with what they both do.
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