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Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\

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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message 
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> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2017-07-21, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> >>> RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Oh, and did I mention I hate the remote?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can't you use iOS as the remote?
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, and that at least solves orientation issues (I often pick up the
>> >>> physical remote and try to use the wrong half for touch input, no 
>> >>> matter
>> >>> the slight different in texture), and it makes the touch surface 
>> >>> wider
>> >>> which is nicer for games. But it largely just replicates the other
>> >>> issues by strictly following the same physical design in software.
>> >>
>> >> Which issues are those?
>> >
>> > Swiping to navigate and make selections, etc. I'm much faster and more
>> > accurate (I often over or undershoot with touch swipes) at navigating 
>> > to
>> > the app and video I want on my Roku with it's button remote. I just
>> > don't see the point of the touch control for anything but the games -
>> > and even then I generally prefer physical controls for most game types.
>>
>> I find the touch controls on the iOS app to be more accurate than the
>> physical remote.
>
> I find I constantly over or undershoot as I swipe, requiring corrective
> swipes - all told taking longer than equivalent button presses. But
> perhaps I just need more practice. Still, buttons 'just work'.

But can't do what a touch screen can do, most obviously
with  the very convenient scrolling in longer lists.

And you don’t get the problem with the buttons becoming
unreliable over time with the most used ones either.

> I've never been a fan of having to adapt to a UI. It should adapt to me.

It can do that much better with a touch screen.

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Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-20 21:38 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 13:51 +0000
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 17:31 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:38 +0000
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            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-20 20:38 +0200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 19:15 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-20 21:20 +0200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:11 +0000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-21 15:23 +0200
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              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 18:40 +0200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +0200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-20 15:51 -0400
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:13 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:03 -0400
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +1000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 22:59 +0000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 12:21 +1000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:05 -0400
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> - 2017-07-21 01:22 +0000
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:13 +1200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-21 17:43 +0000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 15:33 +0000
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 21:02 +0000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-23 00:14 +0000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:48 +1000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 02:37 +1000
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:46 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 14:57 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 01:58 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 02:35 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 12:27 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 11:09 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 18:55 +1200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-07-22 13:38 +1200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-21 05:22 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:48 +1200
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      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-24 20:10 -0500
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          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-26 21:28 -0500
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