Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 07:48:49 +1000 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <1n9hcmd.1sezz4n1t5s2wwN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9indv.pqza8vxw4gf7N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9lpou.1735ndb1p3vm2zN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 7C6wkj58Cd2D8E8uYJ5vZQ9fUYr6VEhoCbWbm7JBhKkwtrsHc= Cancel-Lock: sha1:lLeoyS/56Yn1sbV+sXibj/NbgAA= In-Reply-To: <1n9lpou.1735ndb1p3vm2zN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:61883 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:101918 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:2020 "Jamie Kahn Genet" wrote in message news:1n9lpou.1735ndb1p3vm2zN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> > Jolly Roger wrote: >> > >> >> On 2017-07-21, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> >>> RS Wood wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Oh, and did I mention I hate the remote? >> >>>> >> >>>> Can't you use iOS as the remote? >> >>> >> >>> Yes, and that at least solves orientation issues (I often pick up the >> >>> physical remote and try to use the wrong half for touch input, no >> >>> matter >> >>> the slight different in texture), and it makes the touch surface >> >>> wider >> >>> which is nicer for games. But it largely just replicates the other >> >>> issues by strictly following the same physical design in software. >> >> >> >> Which issues are those? >> > >> > Swiping to navigate and make selections, etc. I'm much faster and more >> > accurate (I often over or undershoot with touch swipes) at navigating >> > to >> > the app and video I want on my Roku with it's button remote. I just >> > don't see the point of the touch control for anything but the games - >> > and even then I generally prefer physical controls for most game types. >> >> I find the touch controls on the iOS app to be more accurate than the >> physical remote. > > I find I constantly over or undershoot as I swipe, requiring corrective > swipes - all told taking longer than equivalent button presses. But > perhaps I just need more practice. Still, buttons 'just work'. But can't do what a touch screen can do, most obviously with the very convenient scrolling in longer lists. And you don’t get the problem with the buttons becoming unreliable over time with the most used ones either. > I've never been a fan of having to adapt to a UI. It should adapt to me. It can do that much better with a touch screen.