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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, comp.mobile.ipad |
| Subject | Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ |
| Date | 2017-07-23 14:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <etiomlFs39tU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <ethd9iFj013U1@mid.individual.net> <1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <ethvdlFn0r1U1@mid.individual.net> <1n9mg4o.1kp6c8u9p24vrN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message news:1n9mg4o.1kp6c8u9p24vrN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message >> news:1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... >> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message >> >> news:1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... >> >> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On 2017-07-21, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >> >> >> > RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Oh, and did I mention I hate the remote? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Can't you use iOS as the remote? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yes, and that at least solves orientation issues (I often pick up >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > physical remote and try to use the wrong half for touch input, no >> >> >> > matter >> >> >> > the slight different in texture), and it makes the touch surface >> >> >> > wider >> >> >> > which is nicer for games. But it largely just replicates the >> >> >> > other >> >> >> > issues by strictly following the same physical design in >> >> >> > software. >> >> >> >> >> >> Which issues are those? >> >> > >> >> > Swiping to navigate and make selections, etc. I'm much faster and >> >> > more >> >> > accurate (I often over or undershoot with touch swipes) at >> >> > navigating >> >> > to >> >> > the app and video I want on my Roku with it's button remote. I just >> >> > don't see the point of the touch control for anything but the >> >> > games - >> >> >> >> I do, the controls can be much more context sensitive with touch >> >> control and there are plenty of non games where that is very useful. >> > >> > I can really only think of one instance from my first week with my >> > Apple >> > TV 4 - fast scrolling without delay (like having to hold down a button >> > for a while till scrolling speeds up) of many objects. That I can do >> > more efficiently with touch gestures. >> >> But it remains to be seen if someone comes up with better >> stuff like they did with the phones when the more capable >> touch control is there to be exploited. Its early days UI wise. > > Early days? Apple has years of iOS touch UI and a > couple decades of trackpad experience to draw on. And is still making significant improvements, most obviously currently with the hard press etc. >> >> > and even then I generally prefer physical controls for most game >> >> > types. >> >> >> >> You're a dinosaur. >> > >> > I had no idea efficient physical controls meant I was stuck in the >> > past :-D Touch works well in certain situations, but far from all. >> >> I was commenting on your silly claim about physical controls. >> >> > I'm sorry that reality troubles you. >> >> You dinosaurs never trouble me. > > Have you spoken with someone about your issues? > It's not good to let these things fester. You dinosaurs will fester forever.
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Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-20 21:38 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 13:51 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 17:31 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:38 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-07-22 13:38 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-20 20:38 +0200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 19:15 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-20 21:20 +0200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:11 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-21 15:23 +0200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 02:49 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 18:40 +0200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +0200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-20 15:51 -0400
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:13 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:03 -0400
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 22:59 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 12:21 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:05 -0400
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> - 2017-07-21 01:22 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:13 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-21 17:43 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 15:33 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 21:02 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-23 00:14 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:48 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 02:37 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:46 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 14:57 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 01:58 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 02:35 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 12:27 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 11:09 +1000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 18:55 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-07-22 13:38 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-21 05:22 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:48 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2017-07-23 22:02 -0700
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 19:02 +1200
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-22 22:24 -0500
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-23 05:22 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-24 20:10 -0500
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-25 01:51 +0000
Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-26 21:28 -0500
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