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Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\
Date 2017-07-23 07:46 +1000
Message-ID <ethvdlFn0r1U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message 
news:1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
>> news:1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz...
>> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2017-07-21, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> >> > RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Oh, and did I mention I hate the remote?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can't you use iOS as the remote?
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, and that at least solves orientation issues (I often pick up 
>> >> > the
>> >> > physical remote and try to use the wrong half for touch input, no
>> >> > matter
>> >> > the slight different in texture), and it makes the touch surface 
>> >> > wider
>> >> > which is nicer for games. But it largely just replicates the other
>> >> > issues by strictly following the same physical design in software.
>> >>
>> >> Which issues are those?
>> >
>> > Swiping to navigate and make selections, etc. I'm much faster and more
>> > accurate (I often over or undershoot with touch swipes) at navigating 
>> > to
>> > the app and video I want on my Roku with it's button remote. I just
>> > don't see the point of the touch control for anything but the games -
>>
>> I do, the controls can be much more context sensitive with touch
>> control and there are plenty of non games where that is very useful.
>
> I can really only think of one instance from my first week with my Apple
> TV 4 - fast scrolling without delay (like having to hold down a button
> for a while till scrolling speeds up) of many objects. That I can do
> more efficiently with touch gestures.

But it remains to be seen if someone comes up with better
stuff like they did with the phones when the more capable
touch control is there to be exploited. Its early days UI wise.

>> > and even then I generally prefer physical controls for most game types.
>>
>> You're a dinosaur.
>
> I had no idea efficient physical controls meant I was stuck in the
> past :-D Touch works well in certain situations, but far from all.

I was commenting on your silly claim about physical controls.

> I'm sorry that reality troubles you.

You dinosaurs never trouble me. 

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Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-20 21:38 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 13:51 +0000
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 17:31 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:38 +0000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-07-22 13:38 +1200
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:58 +1200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:10 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-20 20:38 +0200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 19:15 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-20 21:20 +0200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:11 +0000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Johan <JHvB@nospam.invalid> - 2017-07-21 15:23 +0200
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 02:49 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 18:40 +0200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Hugybear <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +0200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-20 15:51 -0400
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 21:13 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:03 -0400
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 07:30 +1000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-20 22:59 +0000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-07-21 12:21 +1000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-07-21 13:05 -0400
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 13:39 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid> - 2017-07-21 01:22 +0000
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-21 14:13 +1200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-21 17:43 +0000
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 15:33 +0000
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-22 21:02 +0000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-23 00:14 +0000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:48 +1000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 02:37 +1000
            Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 05:56 +1200
              Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 07:46 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-23 15:26 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 14:57 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 01:58 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 02:35 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 12:27 +1200
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 11:09 +1000
                Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 18:55 +1200
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-07-22 13:38 +1200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:46 +1200
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-07-21 05:22 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-22 22:48 +1200
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2017-07-23 22:02 -0700
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-24 19:02 +1200
  Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-22 22:24 -0500
    Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-23 05:22 +0000
      Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-24 20:10 -0500
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-07-25 01:51 +0000
          Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2017-07-26 21:28 -0500
        Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2017-07-26 02:39 +1200

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