Re: tar: Pathname too long

From	Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: tar: Pathname too long
Date	2016-10-19 18:22 +0200
Organization	DNLA GmbH
Message-ID	<nu86ir$mue$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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nospam babbled:

> In article <barmar-3F965A.11311919102016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
>> > >
>> > > So it's STILL hard to believe the Mac created it.  But if so, it's a
>> > > rather stupid bug for a Unix O.S. to make its own end-of-line
>> > > character part of a filename.
>> > 
>> > it's not a bug and a perfectly valid character in a file name.

No, it is not "perfectly valid". It is usually strongly advised to *not* use 
control characters in file names. Even if it is possible on one system, the 
same name might be invalid on a different OS
In my own software (which is crossplatform for windows, OSX and linux) I 
even use a table of characters which comprises all invalid characters of all 
three OS to check against when creating a filename, making thus certain that 
(for example) the OSX version created file can be opened and read by the 
windows version of the software

>> It's surprising that they didn't change the name in OS X to begin with
>> ".", as that's the Unix convention for hidden filenames.
> 
> it's not surprising at all because the issue is not being invisible or
> hidden, but that there's no way to create a file with \r in via the
> keyboard, 

Sure is. It is even simple

> thereby making it impossible for there to be a name conflict.

"Impossible" is it for you to think. When it can be created 
programmatically, it is already possible. And since you can even create it 
very simple via keyboard, it is far from "impossible"

It may be for some dimbulbs (that would certainly include you) who can 
barely use a computer via GUI, but not every computer user is so severly 
limited

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  Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-05 13:08 -0400
  Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-05 17:29 +0000
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  Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-14 09:05 -0400
    Re: tar: Pathname too long Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-14 10:55 -0400
      Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-14 11:15 -0400
        Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-14 15:52 +0000
        Re: tar: Pathname too long Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-14 12:48 -0400
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              Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-15 11:44 -0400
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          Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-14 17:12 -0400
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            Re: tar: Pathname too long rlhamil@smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2016-10-16 08:43 +0000
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                Re: tar: Pathname too long rlhamil@smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2016-10-17 17:46 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-18 06:39 +0200
                Re: tar: Pathname too long dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-18 20:39 +1300
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:20 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-19 09:15 +1300
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 16:37 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 00:26 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-19 23:02 +1300
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 18:02 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-20 14:06 +1300
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:57 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-20 17:47 +1300
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-20 15:23 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 08:38 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-19 11:31 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 11:38 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-19 11:49 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 12:09 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 18:22 +0200
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 12:33 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 18:44 +0200
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 12:58 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-20 04:25 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-21 20:16 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:47 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:40 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 18:06 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-20 00:15 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:58 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 08:19 -0400
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-20 14:21 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-21 20:23 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 04:26 +0000
                Re: tar: Pathname too long "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-22 16:53 -0500
                Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 22:14 +0000
      Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-14 12:33 -0400
    Re: tar: Pathname too long Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2016-10-14 11:03 -0400
      Re: tar: Pathname too long Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-14 15:53 +0000
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