Re: sierra?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: sierra?
Date	2016-10-08 19:45 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2016-10-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-08 14:36, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-08 11:28, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It manifestly does not run if java is not installed.  If I leave
>>>>> the pop up, CS5 is not running and won't run when I try again.
>>>>> Installing J is trivial.  The solution on the page above (editing
>>>>> a JVM file) is more trouble.
>>>>
>>>> It may be more trouble, but it's also more secure.
>>>
>>> AFAIK there are no security issues with JRT.
>>
>> Huh? Of course there are. And they get patched all the time.
>
> I haven't found any current related to JRT 6.

Doesn't mean they don't exist:

<http://www.zdnet.com/article/java-6-users-vulnerable-to-zero-day-flaw-security-experts-warn/>

> And one wonders why Apple themselves offer the legacy Java runtime for
> OS X

Apple also offers older versions of macOS and tons of other software.
You'd rather they obliterate all old versions of all software from
existence?

> rather than fix their own bug that causes the issue to pop up.

That bug may not be part of the JRE install.

>>> At this point, to do the edit I'd have to uninstall JRT, do the edit
>>> and then verify that JRT is actually no longer there and test that
>>> the new fix does work.  Perhaps I'll remember next major MacOS
>>> update.
>>
>> That's how I found out that Adobe apps (and CrashPlan) required Java
>> to be installed - trying to get them running on a system with a fresh
>> (Java-less) system install.
>
> Sure - but it's the remembering that I can do it Javaless when the pop
> up hits saying I need it a year from now(ish).  At that point I'm more
> focused on getting the app running than doing what is most optimal.

It's pretty easy for me to remember not to install Java if something
requires Java to be installed on a machine where Java hasn't been
installed.


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JR

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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 16:59 +0000
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                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-13 18:09 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 23:27 +0000
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 19:01 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:28 -0500
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:38 -0400
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:33 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:03 -0500
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            Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0400
              Re: sierra? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 13:15 -0400
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 14:18 -0400
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 00:37 +0000
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 01:38 +0000
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                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 23:03 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 04:16 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:06 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 19:57 +0000
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