Re: sierra?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: sierra?
Date	2016-10-08 15:33 +0000
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Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-07 15:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>> It's a shame Adobe doesn't want to give more details about the issue beyond
>> "it's Apple's fault", leaving so many of their customers helpless. You can
>> bet that kind of treatment wouldn't be rewarded by me if I were still a
>> customer. I suspect there's something in the OS that could be modified, but
>> since I don't rely heavily on Adobe stuff anymore, I'm not going to waste
>> my time with trying to figure out what Adobe likely already knows but
>> refuses to share. Fuck 'em. If they lose customers over this kind of thing,
>> it's their own doing as far as I'm concerned.
> 
> I despise Adobe more and more each year.  When CS5 breaks for good I'll 
> move on to something else such as Afinity.

That was pretty much my attitude after spending $$$$ on two copies
(different editions) of CS4. I've spent oodles through the years on Adobe
software, and I was tired of it. I haven't looked back. Serif's Affinity
tools are nice for the price.

> That said, they hand out lots of freeware such as Adobe Reader, DNG, etc.

I don't mind such a lack of support for things that are free. But when I've
paid through the nose for something, support shouldn't be mediocre or
non-existent.

-- 
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JR

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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 16:59 +0000
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                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-13 18:09 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 23:27 +0000
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 19:01 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:28 -0500
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:38 -0400
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:33 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:03 -0500
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            Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0400
              Re: sierra? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 13:15 -0400
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 14:18 -0400
                Re: sierra? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:43 -0400
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 00:37 +0000
                Re: sierra? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 20:47 -0400
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 01:38 +0000
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                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 23:03 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 04:16 +0000
                Re: sierra? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:06 -0500
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 19:57 +0000
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                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:28 +0000
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 12:00 -0400
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 18:36 +0000
                Re: sierra? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 14:49 -0400
                Re: sierra? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 19:45 +0000
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