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Subject	Re: DVD rom on mac pro
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2015-09-09 12:57 -0400
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On 2015-09-09 11:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-09-09, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-09-08 17:31, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-09-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-07 17:33, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't get to the internal components of Apple keyboards at all
>>>>> without first destroying the keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> These issues are inherent with miniaturization, though. You will have
>>>>> the same types of problems with other all-in-one computers, for
>>>>> instance. It ain't just Apple. ; )
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.  But - take my iMac.  I really don't give a shit that the bezel
>>>> is so thin and sexy.  It doesn't make the computer perform better.
>>>
>>> I want my computer to have a sleek, modern look, and be as small as
>>> possible. It's not very often at all that I need to open it up - even
>>> with my main work station, a Mac Pro tower. I don't mind the effort -
>>> though I realize I am more computer savvy than many Mac users.
>>
>> For a laptop, compact is good.  For a desktop workstation it should be
>> compact enough, but doesn't have to be as compact as possible, IMO.
>
> The point is not everyone shares your opinion on the matter. I'm betting
> Apple has a better handle on what their customers generally want than
> either of us.

The tyranny of the masses as defined by design obsessed Apple.

>
>>>> Indeed, the miniaturization makes thermal management harder.  I wouldn't
>>>> care if my iMac were 2 cm thicker everywhere and 2 Kg heavier in
>>>> exchanged for easier access to the HD and other components that could be
>>>> replaced.  The 21.5" iMac is nuts if one wants to add memory.
>>>
>>> The iMac models with the metal door on the bottom of the display, where
>>> you unscrew three screws, take the door off, and pull a plastic tab to
>>> eject the memory? I have relatives with that model and have installed
>>> RAM in them without issue. It was a simple and fast procedure.
>>
>> 27" is like that - done it.  The 21.5" has to be opened up to install
>> memory and it's pretty much a full teardown (59 iFixit steps) to get
>> there and one should buy the display strips from iFixit to complete the job.
>
> Obviously we are talking about two different models of 21.5 inch iMac.

Could be - but the tear down guide for most recent 21.5" iMacs 2012 to 
present) means no way to change or add memory w/o going the hard way.

https://www.apple.com/ca/imac/specs/

Note the 21.5" are "configurable" where the 27" are "user accessible".

It's been thus since at least 2012.

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                Re: DVD rom on mac pro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-07 15:24 +0000
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                Re: DVD rom on mac pro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-09 19:31 +0000
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                Re: DVD rom on mac pro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-09 21:43 +0000
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          Re: DVD rom on mac pro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
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              Re: DVD rom on mac pro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-05 17:19 -0400
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            Re: DVD rom on mac pro Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-05 23:34 +0000
              Re: DVD rom on mac pro Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-09-06 08:59 +0200
                Re: DVD rom on mac pro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:57 -0400
                Re: DVD rom on mac pro Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-06 18:29 +0000
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      Re: DVD rom on mac pro Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-05 21:55 -0400

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