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How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine

Started byRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
First post2016-01-08 15:57 +0000
Last post2016-01-28 08:07 +0000
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  How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-08 15:57 +0000
    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 16:40 +0000
      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-09 11:10 +0000
    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-09 20:27 +0000
      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-10 18:06 +0000
        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-10 21:59 +0000
          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-10 23:00 +0000
            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-10 23:05 +0000
              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 09:03 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-11 13:53 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 15:30 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-01-11 15:51 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-11 21:52 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-12 07:57 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-16 12:46 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-20 20:18 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-20 21:19 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-20 21:37 +0000
                            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2016-01-21 00:13 +0000
                              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-21 20:05 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 12:39 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-24 22:37 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-24 23:14 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 23:22 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-25 11:25 +0000
                            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-26 07:58 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16825@Torrens.org.uk> - 2016-01-25 14:45 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-25 15:14 +0100
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-25 21:22 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-01-26 14:37 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-26 20:52 +0000
              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-21 21:08 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-21 21:31 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-21 22:18 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-26 08:05 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-28 08:07 +0000

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#13616 — How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-08 15:57 +0000
SubjectHow do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine
Message-ID<553ecb878cbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
I have a Raspberry Pi connected on the network running RISC OS 5.23
which I can assess from another via ShareFS. There is no monitor
connected to it. I can switch off power to it but it would be better
to perform an orderly shutdown. How do I do this over ShareFS please?

Richard

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#13617

FromMartin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Date2016-01-08 16:40 +0000
Message-ID<553ecf6dc6News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
In reply to#13616
In article <553ecb878cbasura@invalid.addr.uk>,
   Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> I have a Raspberry Pi connected on the network running RISC OS 5.23
> which I can assess from another via ShareFS. There is no monitor
> connected to it. I can switch off power to it but it would be better
> to perform an orderly shutdown. How do I do this over ShareFS please?

I do something similar...

1.  Install osclid on the remote machine so commands can be run remotely.
    I use the one from Frank de Bruijn http://www.aconet.nl/tools/
2.  Create a local Basic file Shutdown in RAMdisc containing
        SYS "TaskManager_Shutdown"
3.  Share RAMdisc as IyoRam
4.  Run a local obey file containing
        roscli -wimp RiscPC Filer_Run Share::IyoRam.$.Shutdown
    where RiscPC is the remote machine name

The Basic program could be on the remote machine.

There may be simpler ways!

Martin

-- 
Martin Avison 
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received. 

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#13618

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-09 11:10 +0000
Message-ID<553f350c01basura@invalid.addr.uk>
In reply to#13617
In article <553ecf6dc6News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin
<News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <553ecb878cbasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
>    <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> > I have a Raspberry Pi connected on the network running RISC OS
> > 5.23 which I can assess from another via ShareFS. There is no
> > monitor connected to it. I can switch off power to it but it
> > would be better to perform an orderly shutdown. How do I do this
> > over ShareFS please?

> I do something similar...

> 1.  Install osclid on the remote machine so commands can be run
> remotely. I use the one from Frank de Bruijn
> http://www.aconet.nl/tools/ 2.  Create a local Basic file Shutdown
> in RAMdisc containing SYS "TaskManager_Shutdown" 3.  Share RAMdisc
> as IyoRam 4.  Run a local obey file containing roscli -wimp RiscPC
> Filer_Run Share::IyoRam.$.Shutdown where RiscPC is the remote
> machine name

> The Basic program could be on the remote machine.

> There may be simpler ways!

It does sound rather complicated :-(

Richard

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#13619

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-09 20:27 +0000
Message-ID<1919683f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13616
In message <553ecb878cbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
          Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

>I have a Raspberry Pi connected on the network running RISC OS 5.23
>which I can assess from another via ShareFS. There is no monitor
>connected to it. I can switch off power to it but it would be better
>to perform an orderly shutdown. How do I do this over ShareFS please?

Not strictly over ShareFS, but over the network - I guess that this
is your real requirement...

Install a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi.  There's a thread on the
RISC OS Open "Wish lists" forum called "VNC Server" that contains
all the links and some useful reading - I think it's better to
point you at the topic rather than just at a download.

Make sure that the VNC server is run when the RPi starts up.

Install Avalanche (the VNC client) on your client machine, i.e.
the one with monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Now you have the RPi's desktop appearing on the client machine,
so you can do anything on it, not merely shut it down.

Hth.

Dave

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#13620

Fromdruck <news@druck.org.uk>
Date2016-01-10 18:06 +0000
Message-ID<n6u6e0$51d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13619
On 09/01/2016 20:27, Dave Higton wrote:
> Install a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi.  There's a thread on the
> RISC OS Open "Wish lists" forum called "VNC Server" that contains
> all the links and some useful reading - I think it's better to
> point you at the topic rather than just at a download.

Good luck with that, they are all utterly broken on anything later than 
a Risc PC, and even then only work (badly) in Archimedes 256 or few 
colour modes.

I'd be able to make very good use of a RISC OS Raspberry Pi if I only 
could use it remotely via VNC or RDP.

---druck

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#13621

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-10 21:59 +0000
Message-ID<a85ef43f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13620
In message <n6u6e0$51d$1@dont-email.me>
          druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

>On 09/01/2016 20:27, Dave Higton wrote:
>> Install a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi.  There's a thread on the
>> RISC OS Open "Wish lists" forum called "VNC Server" that contains
>> all the links and some useful reading - I think it's better to
>> point you at the topic rather than just at a download.
>
>Good luck with that, they are all utterly broken on anything later than 
>a Risc PC, and even then only work (badly) in Archimedes 256 or few 
>colour modes.
>
>I'd be able to make very good use of a RISC OS Raspberry Pi if I only 
>could use it remotely via VNC or RDP.

Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.

I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.

I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.

Dave

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#13622

Fromdruck <news@druck.org.uk>
Date2016-01-10 23:00 +0000
Message-ID<n6unlb$717$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13621
On 10/01/2016 21:59, Dave Higton wrote:
> Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
> RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
> Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.
>
> I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.
>
> I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
> falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.

On the other hand you might like to provide some useful information, 
such which VNC Server, the exact version, the OS running on he Pi, the 
screen mode used, etc.

---druck

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#13623

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-10 23:05 +0000
Message-ID<3958fa3f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13622
In message <n6unlb$717$1@dont-email.me>
          druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

>On 10/01/2016 21:59, Dave Higton wrote:
>> Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
>> RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
>> Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.
>>
>> I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.
>>
>> I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
>> falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.
>
>On the other hand you might like to provide some useful information, 
>such which VNC Server, the exact version, the OS running on he Pi, the 
>screen mode used, etc.

Please read the thread.

Dave

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#13625

FromMatthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-01-11 09:03 +0000
Message-ID<be13314055.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>
In reply to#13623
In message <3958fa3f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
 on 10 Jan 2016 Dave Higton  wrote:

> In message <n6unlb$717$1@dont-email.me>
>           druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> >On 10/01/2016 21:59, Dave Higton wrote:
> >> Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
> >> RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
> >> Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.
> >>
> >> I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.
> >>
> >> I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
> >> falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.
> >
> >On the other hand you might like to provide some useful information, 
> >such which VNC Server, the exact version, the OS running on he Pi, the 
> >screen mode used, etc.
> 
> Please read the thread.

This one?
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845

It certainly looks like things have improved since I last tried a VNS server
on my Iyonix a few years ago.

-- 
Matthew Phillips
Durham

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#13627

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-11 13:53 +0000
Message-ID<71b24b4055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13625
In message <be13314055.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>
          Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <3958fa3f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
> on 10 Jan 2016 Dave Higton  wrote:
>
>> In message <n6unlb$717$1@dont-email.me>
>>           druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> >On 10/01/2016 21:59, Dave Higton wrote:
>> >> Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
>> >> RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
>> >> Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.
>> >>
>> >> I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.
>> >>
>> >> I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
>> >> falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.
>> >
>> >On the other hand you might like to provide some useful information, 
>> >such which VNC Server, the exact version, the OS running on he Pi, the 
>> >screen mode used, etc.
>> 
>> Please read the thread.
>
>This one?
>https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845

Yes.

> It certainly looks like things have improved since I last tried a VNS
> server on my Iyonix a few years ago.

Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.

Dave

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#13628

FromJohn Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk>
Date2016-01-11 15:30 +0000
Message-ID<d88b544055.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#13627
Dave Higton  wrote

> In message <be13314055.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>
>           Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>In message <3958fa3f55.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
>> on 10 Jan 2016 Dave Higton  wrote:
>>
>>> In message <n6unlb$717$1@dont-email.me>
>>>           druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On 10/01/2016 21:59, Dave Higton wrote:
>>>>> Before posting, I checked operation of the VNC server module on the
>>>>> RPi that runs my central heating, using clients Avalanche on the
>>>>> Iyonix and Remmina on Linux.  It does work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just tried it with Avalanche on the BBxM too - also works.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest that you read the thread I cited before posting such
>>>>> falsehoods and negativity.  Perhaps even try it yourself.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand you might like to provide some useful information,
>>>>such which VNC Server, the exact version, the OS running on he Pi, the
>>>>screen mode used, etc.
>>> 
>>> Please read the thread.
>>
>>This one?
>>https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845

> Yes.

>> It certainly looks like things have improved since I last tried a VNS
>> server on my Iyonix a few years ago.

> Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.

Thread not snipped for didactical reasons:-)
I was going to post a "me too" letter agreeing with druck,
having wasted many hours in the past trying to get the VNC server 
working on RISC OS.
Fortunately Dave posted "Please read the thread" before I got around 
to sending it.

So, much thanks to Jeffrey Lee, Steve Potts, for fixing it, and to 
this thread for drawing the new version to my attention.

For some evidence as to just how well it is now working have a look at 
this screenshot:
    http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx/pix/insanity.jpg

The screenshot is from my Iyonix 1950x1200. It might need some study 
to see what is going on.

It shows a RiscPC running VNCSvr under Select 6.10 being remotely and  
indirectly controlled via Avalanche on an ARMiniX under RO 5.22 also 
running VNCSvr, which in turn is being controlled via Avalanche on an 
Iyonix under RO 5.21.

The screenshot is from the Iyonix 1950x1200 16 million colours. The 
ARMiniX is 1950x1080 16 million colours, and the RiscPC is 1152x864 
256 colours.

(Some modes eg 1280x1024 on the RiscPC shoow black screens)



John


-- 
  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
The camel driver has his thoughts, the camel he has his. EGLR

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#13629

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2016-01-11 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<5540567d91tim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#13628
In article <d88b544055.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman
Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Dave Higton  wrote

[Snip]

> > Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.

> Thread not snipped for didactical reasons:-) I was going to post a "me
> too" letter agreeing with druck,

[Snip]

Oh, me too.  ;-)

Thanks everyone. The new improved VNC server for RISC OS really worth a
look now and maybe I can lose some hardware off my desk.

-- 
from Tim Hill who welcomes incoming email to tim at timil dot com.
* Share in a better energy supplier: http://tjrh.eu/coopnrg
* Share in cheaper ethical telecoms: http://tjrh.eu/phone
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#13630

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-11 21:52 +0000
Message-ID<8c89774055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13629
In message <5540567d91tim@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

>In article <d88b544055.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman
>Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Dave Higton  wrote
>
>[Snip]
>
>> > Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.
>
>> Thread not snipped for didactical reasons:-) I was going to post a "me
>> too" letter agreeing with druck,
>
>[Snip]
>
>Oh, me too.  ;-)
>
>Thanks everyone. The new improved VNC server for RISC OS really worth a
>look now and maybe I can lose some hardware off my desk.

I'm glad that this thread has helped more people than expected!

I'm looking forward to hearing what the OP has decided to do.
Clearly several of us have my suggested solution working, but
we still don't know if this is acceptable to the OP.  For sure
there are several of us who can answer any further questions
he may have, if he decides this is the appropriate solution.

Dave

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#13631

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2016-01-12 07:57 +0000
Message-ID<5540aee93cspam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#13630
In article <8c89774055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <5540567d91tim@invalid.org.uk>
>           Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> >In article <d88b544055.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman
> >Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Dave Higton  wrote
> >[Snip]

> >> > Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.

> >> Thread not snipped for didactical reasons:-) I was going to post a "me
> >> too" letter agreeing with druck,

> >[Snip]
> >Oh, me too.  ;-)

> >Thanks everyone. The new improved VNC server for RISC OS really worth a
> >look now and maybe I can lose some hardware off my desk.

> I'm glad that this thread has helped more people than expected!

Note: There is some, slight, instability which can be lessened by slowing
the rate of keyboard/mouse updates requested by the client.
Covered in the thread mentioned.
Useable with the client on a wirelessly connected windows laptop (wireless
error/retransmission exaggerates any connectivity issues)

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#13632

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-16 12:46 +0000
Message-ID<5542d8b67abasura@invalid.addr.uk>
In reply to#13630
In article <8c89774055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton
<dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <5540567d91tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill
>           <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> >In article <d88b544055.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John
> >Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Dave Higton  wrote
> >
> >[Snip]
> >
> >> > Indeed they have.  I hope druck catches up too.
> >
> >> Thread not snipped for didactical reasons:-) I was going to post
> >> a "me too" letter agreeing with druck,
> >
> >[Snip]
> >
> >Oh, me too.  ;-)
> >
> >Thanks everyone. The new improved VNC server for RISC OS really
> >worth a look now and maybe I can lose some hardware off my desk.

> I'm glad that this thread has helped more people than expected!

> I'm looking forward to hearing what the OP has decided to do.
> Clearly several of us have my suggested solution working, but we
> still don't know if this is acceptable to the OP.  For sure there
> are several of us who can answer any further questions he may have,
> if he decides this is the appropriate solution.

Sorry Dave, I've been that busy at the moment with most of my time
given over to setting up an exciting new astronomy group within U3A.
Time permitting I will get back to this newsgroup and report on what I
do about the remote shutdown issue.

Richard

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#13655

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-20 20:18 +0000
Message-ID<55451171fcbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
In reply to#13630
In article <8c89774055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton
<dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> I'm looking forward to hearing what the OP has decided to do.
> Clearly several of us have my suggested solution working, but we
> still don't know if this is acceptable to the OP.  For sure there
> are several of us who can answer any further questions he may have,
> if he decides this is the appropriate solution.

Using Jeffrey's vncserver (V0.13) and RISC OS 5.23 (02-Jun-15) on the
remote machine and Avalanche (V0.22) on RISC OS 5.23 (20-Dec-15) on
the client I can open a window to the remote machine but reliability
is an issue - this may be more to do with Avalanche - it is quite an
old program. When it crashes you have to restart the vncserver which
is not clever when you don't have a monitor connected to the remote
m/c.

If I can get my head round Martin's suggestion that might be a more
reliable suggestion.

Richard

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#13656

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-01-20 21:19 +0000
Message-ID<a501174555.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#13655
In message <55451171fcbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
          Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

>In article <8c89774055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton
><dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking forward to hearing what the OP has decided to do.
>> Clearly several of us have my suggested solution working, but we
>> still don't know if this is acceptable to the OP.  For sure there
>> are several of us who can answer any further questions he may have,
>> if he decides this is the appropriate solution.
>
>Using Jeffrey's vncserver (V0.13) and RISC OS 5.23 (02-Jun-15) on the
>remote machine and Avalanche (V0.22) on RISC OS 5.23 (20-Dec-15) on
>the client I can open a window to the remote machine but reliability
>is an issue - this may be more to do with Avalanche - it is quite an
>old program. When it crashes you have to restart the vncserver which
>is not clever when you don't have a monitor connected to the remote
>m/c.

Curious.  I'm using the same version of Avalanche, and it seems
reliable for me.

Dave

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#13657

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-20 21:37 +0000
Message-ID<554518a0b7basura@invalid.addr.uk>
In reply to#13655
In article <55451171fcbasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
<basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:


> Using Jeffrey's vncserver (V0.13) and RISC OS 5.23 (02-Jun-15) on
> the remote machine and Avalanche (V0.22) on RISC OS 5.23
> (20-Dec-15) on the client I can open a window to the remote machine
> but reliability is an issue - this may be more to do with Avalanche
> - it is quite an old program. When it crashes you have to restart
> the vncserver which is not clever when you don't have a monitor
> connected to the remote m/c.

> If I can get my head round Martin's suggestion that might be a more
> reliable suggestion.

I've just tried Martin's suggestion which seems to work well. This is
by far the best solution. I've placed the BASIC file in my network
directory. Martin - I'm not sure why you decided to place it in RAM
because it won't be there next time you boot. Frank de Bruijn's
adaptation of OscliD/roscli is a rather neat idea for communicating
with remote m/cs. I'm sure there are lots of possibilities if only I
had the imagination.

Richard

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#13658

FromMartin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Date2016-01-21 00:13 +0000
Message-ID<554526f2c2News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
In reply to#13657
In article <554518a0b7basura@invalid.addr.uk>,
   Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> In article <55451171fcbasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
> <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

> I've just tried Martin's suggestion which seems to work well. This is
> by far the best solution. I've placed the BASIC file in my network
> directory. Martin - I'm not sure why you decided to place it in RAM
> because it won't be there next time you boot. 

I did suggest that it could be on the remote machine!

Mine was in RAM because my particular application was driven from the
Iyonix, so the files were copied from the Iyonix hard disc each time it
ran. 

As long as the roscli can execute a Filer_Run command on the remote
machine which can run a program that shuts the remote machine down, it
does not matter where the program is!

Martin

-- 
Martin Avison 
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received. 

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#13662

FromRichard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Date2016-01-21 20:05 +0000
Message-ID<55459412fdbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
In reply to#13658
In article <554526f2c2News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin
<News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <554518a0b7basura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
>    <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> > In article <55451171fcbasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
> > <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

> > I've just tried Martin's suggestion which seems to work well.
> > This is by far the best solution. I've placed the BASIC file in
> > my network directory. Martin - I'm not sure why you decided to
> > place it in RAM because it won't be there next time you boot. 

> I did suggest that it could be on the remote machine!

> Mine was in RAM because my particular application was driven from
> the Iyonix, so the files were copied from the Iyonix hard disc each
> time it ran. 

Martin - I agree that if you write the BASIC file into RAM every time
it will always be available ;-)

> As long as the roscli can execute a Filer_Run command on the remote
> machine which can run a program that shuts the remote machine down,
> it does not matter where the program is!

Has anyone else tried this on Raspberry Pi to Raspberry Pi? I seem to
be getting filer crashes. I hope this is roscli that's causing the
problems.

Richard

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