Re: Spam? label

From	Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: Spam? label
Date	2012-09-14 16:23 +0100
Organization	Russell Hafter Holidays
Message-ID	<52cf231388see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> (permalink)
References	(12 earlier) <52cf158b93see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> <52cf19fe40graham@gjenkins.me.uk> <gemini.macfet00ach1802tw.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> <gemini.mach0100bkmvh02tw.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> <gemini.machdc00buw1p02tw.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>

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<gemini.machdc00buw1p02tw.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>,
   Alan Wrigley
<spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> wrote:

> Hmm... I've just had another thought about this. Is it
> possible there's an SMTP relay embedded in the BT router
> which intercepts all traffic and then passes it on? This
> would explain two things: (a) why Graham is apparently
> able to send mail unauthenticated via Purley and (b) why
> Purley is scanning it for spam. But if this is the case,
> why FFS? What purpose can it serve if it just sends the
> mail on to the server it was destined for in the first
> place?

I have always understood, perhaps quite incorrectly, that
BT's Home Hub has SMTP hard-wired via its own servers.

So quite possibly what you say is true.

I took a personal decision some time ago to have absolutely
no further direct dealings with BT (except as a [very minor]
shareholder) and everything I read about their services
vindicates that decision.

But e-mail sent directly via Purley Hosting, using SMTP
Authentication, is not, quite specifically, and as Neil
says, scanned.

See headers below for a test e-mail I just sent:- 

(I have changed the left hand side of the e-mail addresses
to xyzcgas, but no other changes)

Delivered-To: aliceadsl.fr-xyzcgas@aliceadsl.fr
Received: (qmail 1579 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2012
15:15:07 -0000
Received: from mx23-g26.free.fr (HELO server1.spellings.net)
(212.27.42.85)
  by mrelay10-g25.free.fr with SMTP; 14 Sep 2012 15:15:07
-0000
Received: from server1.spellings.net ([178.239.169.72])
	by mx1-g20.free.fr (MXproxy) for xyzcgas@aliceadsl.fr;
	Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:15:07 +0200 (CEST)
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM score=0
Received: from 94-30-63-16.xdsl.murphx.net
([94.30.63.16]:1410 helo=RiscPC2)
	by server1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77)
	(envelope-from <xyzcgas@phone.coop>)
	id 1TCXbk-0006WN-80
	for xyzcgas@aliceadsl.fr; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:04 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: Russell Hafter <xyzcgas@phone.coop>
To: xyzcgas@aliceadsl.fr
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:02 +0100
Subject: test
Message-ID: <52cf224e5axyzcgas@phone.coop>
Return-Receipt-To: xyzcgas@phone.coop
User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.06-ds.5
Content-Type: text/plain
X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the
ISP for more information
X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1TCXbk-0006WN-80
X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact
your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details
X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: 
X-PurleyHosting-MailScanner-From: xyzcgas@phone.coop
X-Spam-Status: No
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please
include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.spellings.net
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - aliceadsl.fr
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - phone.coop

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