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Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

Started byLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
Last post2025-08-15 07:54 +0000
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  Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:13 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 06:08 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 00:13 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:24 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 02:53 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:26 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 05:14 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:37 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 15:13 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 08:42 +1000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 19:04 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 09:30 +1000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 23:59 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 06:21 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 05:59 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-06 02:05 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-07 18:22 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:56 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:49 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 04:12 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-04 07:05 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:26 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 09:05 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 06:16 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 09:45 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 20:37 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:13 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 12:38 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 13:20 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-04 14:38 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:34 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:58 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:19 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 20:53 +1000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 18:57 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 20:06 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:31 +1000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:22 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:33 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:32 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:31 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:49 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:11 +0800
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 19:57 +0800
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:34 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 20:58 +0800
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:55 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:30 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 14:33 +0800
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-07 06:56 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 22:18 +1000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 19:34 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 09:10 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 21:38 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 12:56 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 22:15 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-08 10:36 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:01 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 00:58 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 13:58 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:28 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-09 10:49 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:28 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-10 18:37 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:49 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:08 +0100
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:53 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-12 04:06 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:46 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:42 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:47 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:34 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 21:29 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 04:31 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 11:45 +0200
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:49 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:36 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:22 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 09:14 +0100
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:29 +0200
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 22:44 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:38 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:00 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:08 +0200
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 23:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 01:28 +0200
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 03:00 -0400
                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-15 11:45 -0400
                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:56 -0400
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 00:28 +1000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 16:30 +0100
                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 02:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 20:20 +1000
                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 13:12 +0100
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:33 +0000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:59 -0400
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 20:57 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:27 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:50 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:59 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 07:11 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:49 +0100
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:16 +1000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:33 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:33 +0100
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:45 +0200
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:31 +0100
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 14:20 +0200
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:16 -0400
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:35 +1000
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:47 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:02 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 05:24 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:37 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:49 -0400
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:44 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:33 +0000
                                                                    CD-DA and CD-ROM (was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 09:38 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:16 -0400
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 15:23 +0200
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 14:32 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-17 10:26 -0400
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:33 +1000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:53 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:52 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:35 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:49 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:30 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:00 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:36 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:12 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:53 +1000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:28 +1000
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 02:38 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:42 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:35 +0100
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:58 +1000
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:10 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 22:02 +1000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 19:10 -0700
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:19 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:28 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:50 +0100
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 05:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:28 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:24 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 20:17 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:57 -0400
                                                                                      POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-21 21:24 +1000
                                                                                        Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:32 +0100
                                                                                        Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:14 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Teslas and Toyotas Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Teslas and Toyotas rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 14:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 18:19 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:55 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:42 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 19:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:15 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 17:01 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:36 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 11:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 14:37 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 13:51 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:01 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 16:07 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:34 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 11:47 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:04 -0700
                                                                                                              Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 22:19 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:35 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:24 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:06 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:40 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-29 12:16 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:23 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-30 10:37 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:57 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:18 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:16 +1000
                                                                                                                              Capitalism and Population collapse [Re: Costs of transport] Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:45 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:56 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:23 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 08:30 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 06:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:32 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:02 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:49 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 14:25 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:20 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:15 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:51 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:17 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 23:12 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:58 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Herbs and banks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:47 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Herbs and banks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Herbs and banks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Herbs and banks Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 14:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:09 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 21:53 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:27 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:31 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:47 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 02:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-30 07:21 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:00 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:35 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:28 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:29 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:43 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 10:59 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:24 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:36 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:53 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:33 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:47 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-31 12:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 21:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:30 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:44 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:05 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:57 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 20:08 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:47 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 04:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:09 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 22:47 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:47 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:17 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:38 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:53 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:49 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-27 06:10 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-27 12:06 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:40 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-27 13:18 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:42 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:57 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:38 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:28 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:35 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 22:15 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:18 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:34 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:57 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-29 08:52 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 09:58 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:08 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:26 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:27 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:21 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-08-29 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:47 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:26 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:28 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:15 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:02 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:10 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-08-30 18:37 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-31 09:07 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:41 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:54 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:37 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:40 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:27 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:17 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 00:53 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:29 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:24 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:30 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:27 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:13 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:06 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:01 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:51 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:08 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:13 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:15 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:04 +0100
                                                                                                                      Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:58 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:34 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:43 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-09-03 15:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 08:00 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-01 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 21:49 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:32 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:15 +0100
                                                                                                                              Storey "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:28 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:59 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:17 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 12:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:27 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 17:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:27 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:00 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 11:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 17:53 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:20 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:12 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:08 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:10 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:07 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:07 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:54 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:49 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:26 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 01:09 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:24 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 01:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Non glamorous military things "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:05 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:35 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-29 11:10 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:28 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:01 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 04:52 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 21:30 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 07:49 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 21:22 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 22:51 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-08-31 22:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-01 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:35 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:36 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:32 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:10 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 19:49 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:24 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:25 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:48 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 01:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:20 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:24 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:10 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                      House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 23:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 03:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:04 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:21 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 23:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 04:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 05:13 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:10 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:05 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-09-01 09:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 17:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:17 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-02 13:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 13:39 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-06 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 13:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:52 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:11 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:55 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 02:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-06 13:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-06 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 23:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 13:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:25 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 21:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 16:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 17:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 19:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 16:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 22:42 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 03:08 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 05:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 07:14 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 02:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:34 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 14:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 03:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:19 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:51 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:29 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:31 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:41 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:02 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 22:07 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:13 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:11 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:00 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:57 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 04:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:45 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-06 10:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:54 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-07 23:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:29 +1000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:41 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:59 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:42 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:02 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:38 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-05 18:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:45 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:20 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 04:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 08:09 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:10 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:44 +1000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:35 +1000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 22:26 +1000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 17:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:12 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:10 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 15:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:08 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:00 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:34 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:32 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:19 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:21 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:19 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:45 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:49 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:08 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                        [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-27 22:22 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:08 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:26 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 06:15 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 08:48 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:35 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:36 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:05 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:33 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:18 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:43 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:58 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:24 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:19 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:49 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 14:51 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:10 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:17 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:55 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:25 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 16:30 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:29 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-26 04:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:54 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 12:59 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 21:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:03 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:46 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:11 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:35 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 01:16 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:38 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:19 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-08-28 10:06 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:02 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:55 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:31 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:33 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:51 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:47 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:49 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:45 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:58 +0100
                                                                                            Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:46 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:03 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:32 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 04:11 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:38 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:27 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:07 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 03:04 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 22:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:17 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 23:21 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:01 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:38 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 21:06 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 19:04 +0000
                                                                                High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:58 +0200
                                                                                    Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 13:45 +0000
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:47 +0200
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:42 +0000
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:45 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 23:30 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:34 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 06:48 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 11:44 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:59 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:22 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 23:46 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:37 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-08 20:06 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 23:02 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:40 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:58 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:49 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:06 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:58 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:33 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 01:04 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-10 23:12 -0400
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 13:50 +0200
                                                  Good Old DOS and Ancient Windows: TSR Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:35 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-08-11 10:32 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:34 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:35 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:12 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:29 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:06 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:02 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 02:56 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 08:07 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 03:55 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 10:59 +0100
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:39 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:49 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 17:58 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:53 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-07 10:45 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 17:47 +0800
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:03 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:12 +0800
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:43 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:43 +0100
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:40 +0800
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:53 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:43 +0100
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:15 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:07 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:53 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:45 +0800
                                [OT] Minix "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:55 +0800
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 14:23 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:38 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 12:48 +0100
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 21:21 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:22 +0100
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#71602

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 01:08 +0000
Message-ID<1080ipl$3f9p0$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71576
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 22:33:46 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

> If you are listening to just one frequency, then I suppose
> 'sampling' could do a reasonable job, but as voice and music are,
> usually, made up of many frequencies and 'sampled' SIMPLIFICATION
> can not be as good as the original!!

Actually, it can be the opposite. For example, “quantization noise”
becomes “quantization distortion” when you are sampling a simple pure
frequency. But in a complex waveform like a full orchestral symphony,
the effect becomes much less noticeable.

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#71621

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-19 01:52 -0400
Message-ID<ujqdnYvLGtCRjDn1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#71576
On 8/18/25 8:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 17/08/2025 11:32 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/08/2025 14:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-17 03:31, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:20:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital
>>>>> representation of an Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an
>>>>> infinite number of samples per second.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t believe that nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> It is easy enough to put an oscilloscope on the output of a DAC
>>>> to prove that it can reproduce pure waves (like sine waves or
>>>> more complex signals) as cleanly as you like, with no hint of the
>>>> original sample rate anywhere in that waveform.
>>>
>>> To have that "infinite number of samples" you need an infinite 
>>> bandwidth, which analog electronics doesn't have, nor our 
>>> mechanical-biological sensors have.
>>>
>> And since sound waves are the average of a lot of molecules of air 
>> hitting your ear drums, and cilia the incoming signal is always
>> digital anyway.
>>
>> Not much point in sampling to a greater depth than the actual sound
>> wave intrinsically has.
>>
>> Marketing has turned hifi from 'more then good enough' to
>> 'perfection'. Which it can never be.
> 
> Correct. If you are listening to just one frequency, then I suppose
> 'sampling' could do a reasonable job, but as voice and music are,
> usually, made up of many frequencies and 'sampled' SIMPLIFICATION can
> not be as good as the original!!

   Well, sample good enough ..... and material where
   that can be useful ....

   Then there's how the sound is reproduced. A whole
   other set of fuzzy params.

   MOST 'realistic' are still likely mageneplanar
   speakers. Not 'efficient' though, you need two
   or three hundred watts. If you like 'cone' sound
   then I'd rec Vandersteen. "Horn", Klipch (no, not
   the fake ones at the discount store). And then
   each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
   subtle color.

   I remember the older quality transistor AB amps.
   "Technically" they were probably very good, but
   the sound just seemed too "hard". You can still
   buy class-A tube/valve amps. The 'tech' looks
   kind of bad, but the Human Experience is superior.

   Alas the PRICE is 'superior' too  :-)

   Look at "QuickSilver" ... basic, very good, and
   semi-affordable. I've got a 40w set out in my
   storage shed, but you need high-efficiency
   speakers for that and, at my age, it's just
   not worth it.

   Anyway, nothing's "perfect" and the Human Equation
   figures heavily into that all. You are not going to
   find anything great at WalMart ... but the stuff
   for six figures in the audiophile mags is not
   sure to Get You There either.
   https://www.theabsolutesound.com/

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#71637

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 09:35 +0100
Message-ID<1081cvn$3kivt$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71621
On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
> And then
>    each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
>    subtle color.

No, it doesn't

Unless its shite

All 'good' amplifiers are indistinguishable


-- 
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey

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#71674

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<1W2pQ.10555$uCGc.5303@fx14.iad>
In reply to#71637
On 2025-08-19, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
>
>> And then
>>    each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
>>    subtle color.
>
> No, it doesn't
>
> Unless its shite
>
> All 'good' amplifiers are indistinguishable

Someone once put things into perspective by holding up
a piece of wire and claiming its frequency response was
superior to that of any preamp.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#71721

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-20 09:49 +0100
Message-ID<108426h$7mtq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71674
On 19/08/2025 18:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-08-19, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> And then
>>>     each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
>>>     subtle color.
>>
>> No, it doesn't
>>
>> Unless its shite
>>
>> All 'good' amplifiers are indistinguishable
> 
> Someone once put things into perspective by holding up
> a piece of wire and claiming its frequency response was
> superior to that of any preamp.
> 
That was an April Fool article in Wireless World about the new 
revolutionary ASPOW amplifier.
A Straight Piece Of Wire,

-- 
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman


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#71768

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Message-ID<EunpQ.37143$l%O3.15716@fx18.iad>
In reply to#71721
On 2025-08-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 19/08/2025 18:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-08-19, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> And then
>>>>     each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
>>>>     subtle color.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't
>>>
>>> Unless its shite
>>>
>>> All 'good' amplifiers are indistinguishable
>> 
>> Someone once put things into perspective by holding up
>> a piece of wire and claiming its frequency response was
>> superior to that of any preamp.
> 
> That was an April Fool article in Wireless World about the new 
> revolutionary ASPOW amplifier.
> A Straight Piece Of Wire,

Ah, thanks.

Not to be confused with Grace Hopper's nanoseconds.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#71703

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-20 00:04 -0400
Message-ID<DqicncrVk4PO1Dj1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#71637
On 8/19/25 4:35 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
>> And then
>>    each brand/model of AMP and PREAMP adds its own
>>    subtle color.
> 
> No, it doesn't
> 
> Unless its shite
> 
> All 'good' amplifiers are indistinguishable

   Well ... brands/series CAN have tonal 'flavors'
   that are a bit different. All good, just a little
   'different'.

   Note the "McIntosh Sound" in higher-end equipment.
   It IS distinctive. It's not 'wrong' or 'bad', just
   a little 'different' from the others. Using cone
   or planar or electostatic or plasma speakers ...
   again each is a little 'different'.

   Quote tech specs all you will ... it's ALL feeding
   into US, goo-ware, a 4+ billion year old evolutionary
   product. So, what "sounds great" is what sounds great
   to US ... not a bank of instrumentation.

   Heh, heh ... just tried to look at a McIntosh reseller,
   "Crutchfield". The site wanted me to Prove I'm Human.

   Nope. NO SALE assholes.

   DO note that we're talking $5000-$25000 amps here ...
   Besides the groovy looks, are they THAT much better
   than something from Best Buy ???

   Only to the people you're trying to impress  :-)

   Me, I like cones + tube/valve amps - best was
   class-A, but it ran HOT all the time. Maybe
   not the best for hard-2-get valves. IMHO, go
   with Vandersteen 2C(x) series while your ears
   are still young enough to really tell the diff.

   Magneplanars ARE the 'clearest', most 'transparent',
   but they DO need a lot of watts AND some sub-woofs
   to cover the low end.

   I once saw some place trying to make 'fake valves',
   literal vacuum tech but instead of the hot filament
   they substituted nano-etched emitter 'spines' for
   the hot cathode. Otherwise typical pentode layout.
   In THEORY vastly longer life but with valve
   'characteristics', esp for audio. Not sure what
   became of this tech. Sort of a merger of olde-tyme
   and modern micro-engineering.

   Hmmm ... my spell-checker doesn't RECOGNIZE the
   word "pentode" .....

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#71733

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-20 10:30 +0100
Message-ID<10844jt$7mtq$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71703
On 20/08/2025 05:04, c186282 wrote:
> Well ... brands/series CAN have tonal 'flavors'
>    that are a bit different. All good, just a little
>    'different'.
> 
In loudspakers, yes. In the electronics, seriously, no...

>    Note the "McIntosh Sound" in higher-end equipment.
>    It IS distinctive. It's not 'wrong' or 'bad', just
>    a little 'different' from the others. Using cone
>    or planar or electostatic or plasma speakers ...
>    again each is a little 'different'.
> 
Speakers yes.

You would be horrified at the distortion and ripply frequency response 
of *any* loudspeaker.


>    Quote tech specs all you will ... it's ALL feeding
>    into US, goo-ware, a 4+ billion year old evolutionary
>    product. So, what "sounds great" is what sounds great
>    to US ... not a bank of instrumentation.
> 
>    Heh, heh ... just tried to look at a McIntosh reseller,
>    "Crutchfield". The site wanted me to Prove I'm Human.
> 
>    Nope. NO SALE assholes.
> 
No Idea what McIntosh is.,..

>    DO note that we're talking $5000-$25000 amps here ...
>    Besides the groovy looks, are they THAT much better
>    than something from Best Buy ???
> 
No.
Its a complete con.

>    Only to the people you're trying to impress  🙂
> 
Yup

>    Me, I like cones + tube/valve amps - best was
>    class-A, but it ran HOT all the time. Maybe
>    not the best for hard-2-get valves. IMHO, go
>    with Vandersteen 2C(x) series while your ears
>    are still young enough to really tell the diff.
> 
At low levels they are no different from a transistor amplifier with a 
rather limited frequency response and rather higher output impedance.
Only at overload can you hear a real difference.


>    Magneplanars ARE the 'clearest', most 'transparent',
>    but they DO need a lot of watts AND some sub-woofs
>    to cover the low end.
> 
Oh yes. Electrostatics too and in the PA world horn loudspeakers if done 
properly are really really good.

The guy I worked for in SA built a top class PA system for a really 
expensive night club.

2x15" for the base, 2x10" I think for the lower mid range, a pair of 
large JBL style horns
for the mid range and JBL style bullet tweeters for the top.

I have never heard perfect clarity at 115dBm on a dance floor before, or 
since.

Lord knows what he charged...

>    I once saw some place trying to make 'fake valves',
>    literal vacuum tech but instead of the hot filament
>    they substituted nano-etched emitter 'spines' for
>    the hot cathode. Otherwise typical pentode layout.
>    In THEORY vastly longer life but with valve
>    'characteristics', esp for audio. Not sure what
>    became of this tech. Sort of a merger of olde-tyme
>    and modern micro-engineering.
> 
>    Hmmm ... my spell-checker doesn't RECOGNIZE the
>    word "pentode" .....

Neither does mine. Surprised you used pentodes. Most USA designs used a 
tetrode.


But anyway, the point is that amplifiers are all me-too.

But loudspeakers absolutely are not


-- 
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah 
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

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#71775

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-08-20 19:00 +0000
Message-ID<mgmka7F93agU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71733
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 10:30:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> No Idea what McIntosh is.,..

High end amps that later expanded into tuners etc. Woodstock was powered 
by McIntosh amps and JBL speakers.

Not to be confused with the apple:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntosh_(apple)

I grew up in apple country and that was a popular apple. We'd generally 
get a bushel in the fall since it stored well. I preferred Northern Spy 
for eating so we'd get a peck of those. 

Interesting blurb on that page about Apple computer and the overlap with 
McIntosh Labs.  I never thought about that or the difference in spelling. 
We called the apples 'Macs' so I assumed it was Macintosh.

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#71638

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 09:36 +0100
Message-ID<1081d2p$3kivt$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71621
On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
> I remember the older quality transistor AB amps.
>    "Technically" they were probably very good, but
>    the sound just seemed too "hard".

Put em on  test equipment and you find crossover distortion

Swap to valves and get intermodulation distortion instead.


-- 
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey

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#71704

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-20 00:12 -0400
Message-ID<gp-cnf1Oadm_1jj1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#71638
On 8/19/25 4:36 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/08/2025 06:52, c186282 wrote:
>> I remember the older quality transistor AB amps.
>>    "Technically" they were probably very good, but
>>    the sound just seemed too "hard".
> 
> Put em on  test equipment and you find crossover distortion

   Did once. No real distortion, it was a higher-end
   amp. The "problem" seemed to be the HARMONICS. Valves
   favor even harmonics, old transistors favored odd -
   and old amps had filters that cut-back even the
   odd harmonics.

   So, you got a "too perfect" sound - and it just
   wasn't so great. Grated on the nerves.

> Swap to valves and get intermodulation distortion instead.

   Mmmmmm ... intermodulation distortion ... !  :-)

   Sounds good to me, more 'real world'.

   DO remember we're not computers, but goo-ware,
   4+ billion year evolutionary products.

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#71651

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse>
Date2025-08-19 21:53 +1000
Message-ID<1081ojg$3nei1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71621
On 19/08/2025 3:52 pm, c186282 wrote:

<Snip>

>    Look at "QuickSilver" ... basic, very good, and
>    semi-affordable. I've got a 40w set out in my
>    storage shed, but you need high-efficiency
>    speakers for that and, at my age, it's just
>    not worth it.

I can relate to that. Being late 60's, I've been getting my ears tested 
each year for a few years.

Last year, the Audio-Tech said I was losing my hearing in the Right Ear. 
It was O.K.'ish (fairly constant -22dB) up to about 500Hz, dropped to 
about -27dB at 1kHz then picked up a bit by about 5kHz then rolled off 
to be about -30dB at 15kHz.

(Only a 5dB drop was a problem. REALLY??)

She plugged a generic Hearing Aide into her computer ... to set its 
frequency response curve I guess ..... then gave me the Hearing Aide and 
said I could get replacement batteries just by dropping in to their office.

(Yes, GAVE as in ZERO Cost.)

I wore it the rest of the day .... since then it's been gathering dust 
in the Bedside Cupboard. ;-)

Tinnitus .... now THAT is becoming a problem!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#71575

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse>
Date2025-08-18 22:28 +1000
Message-ID<107v689$3219t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71500
On 17/08/2025 11:23 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-17 03:31, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:20:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>>> "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital representation of an
>>> Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an infinite number of samples
>>> per second.
>>
>> Don’t believe that nonsense.
>>
>> It is easy enough to put an oscilloscope on the output of a DAC to prove
>> that it can reproduce pure waves (like sine waves or more complex 
>> signals)
>> as cleanly as you like, with no hint of the original sample rate anywhere
>> in that waveform.
> 
> To have that "infinite number of samples" you need an infinite 
> bandwidth, which analog electronics doesn't have, nor our 
> mechanical-biological sensors have.
> 
"infinite number of samples" .... that's what you get when you listen to 
the REAL Sound!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#71583

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-18 17:51 +0100
Message-ID<107vlmo$37517$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71575
On 18/08/2025 13:28, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 17/08/2025 11:23 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-17 03:31, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:20:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital representation 
>>>> of an
>>>> Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an infinite number of samples
>>>> per second.
>>>
>>> Don’t believe that nonsense.
>>>
>>> It is easy enough to put an oscilloscope on the output of a DAC to prove
>>> that it can reproduce pure waves (like sine waves or more complex 
>>> signals)
>>> as cleanly as you like, with no hint of the original sample rate 
>>> anywhere
>>> in that waveform.
>>
>> To have that "infinite number of samples" you need an infinite 
>> bandwidth, which analog electronics doesn't have, nor our 
>> mechanical-biological sensors have.
>>
> "infinite number of samples" .... that's what you get when you listen to 
> the REAL Sound!!

No. it isn't.

Perhaps a trip back to physics classes and 'Brownian motion' will 
enlighten you


-- 
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a 
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, 
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer 
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to 
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

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#71625

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-19 02:38 -0400
Message-ID<uridncJ3Z8tthjn1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#71583
On 8/18/25 12:51 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/08/2025 13:28, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 17/08/2025 11:23 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-17 03:31, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:20:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital representation 
>>>>> of an
>>>>> Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an infinite number of samples
>>>>> per second.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t believe that nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> It is easy enough to put an oscilloscope on the output of a DAC to 
>>>> prove
>>>> that it can reproduce pure waves (like sine waves or more complex 
>>>> signals)
>>>> as cleanly as you like, with no hint of the original sample rate 
>>>> anywhere
>>>> in that waveform.
>>>
>>> To have that "infinite number of samples" you need an infinite 
>>> bandwidth, which analog electronics doesn't have, nor our 
>>> mechanical-biological sensors have.
>>>
>> "infinite number of samples" .... that's what you get when you listen 
>> to the REAL Sound!!
> 
> No. it isn't.
> 
> Perhaps a trip back to physics classes and 'Brownian motion' will 
> enlighten you


   True. Human senses - audio, visual or whatever - do
   not have "infinite resolution".

   What IS there is constantly influenced, biased, by a
   bunch of other subtle things. There is no such thing
   as an 'authentic experience' - it's all dependent,
   processes and sub-processed, colored and biased,
   compressed and tweaked as best to fit our little brains.

   The Buddha was kind of right when he said All Is
   Illusion. (note Plato's Allegory Of The Cave ...
   similar ultimate conclusion, but, after what
   happened to Socrates, he didn't dare finish the
   thought).

   At very best, well, we're "Goo-Ware" ... evolved to
   best fit THIS kind of world.

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#71639

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 09:42 +0100
Message-ID<1081dd8$3kivt$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71625
On 19/08/2025 07:38, c186282 wrote:
> True. Human senses - audio, visual or whatever - do
>    not have "infinite resolution".
> 
Even in a world based on material realism, there are only a limited 
number of photons available in seeing, and a limited number of molecules 
in hearing.

Ultimately sight and sound are both digital.

>    What IS there is constantly influenced, biased, by a
>    bunch of other subtle things. There is no such thing
>    as an 'authentic experience' - it's all dependent,
>    processes and sub-processed, colored and biased,
>    compressed and tweaked as best to fit our little brains.
> 
Well exactl,. 'authentic' is eh sort of word the Left uses,. Its cosy, 
uplifting morallu pure and essentially meaningless.

>    The Buddha was kind of right when he said All Is
>    Illusion. (note Plato's Allegory Of The Cave ...
>    similar ultimate conclusion, but, after what
>    happened to Socrates, he didn't dare finish the
>    thought).

See Kant Shopenhauer and latterly Popper
> 
>    At very best, well, we're "Goo-Ware" ... evolved to
>    best fit THIS kind of world.

Or is this world merely the only way we can see a reality that is way 
beyond us anyway?


-- 
"And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch".

Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14

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#71707

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-20 00:50 -0400
Message-ID<rOKdnUHXQPGUyTj1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#71639
On 8/19/25 4:42 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/08/2025 07:38, c186282 wrote:
>> True. Human senses - audio, visual or whatever - do
>>    not have "infinite resolution".
>>
> Even in a world based on material realism, there are only a limited 
> number of photons available in seeing, and a limited number of molecules 
> in hearing.
> 
> Ultimately sight and sound are both digital.
> 
>>    What IS there is constantly influenced, biased, by a
>>    bunch of other subtle things. There is no such thing
>>    as an 'authentic experience' - it's all dependent,
>>    processes and sub-processed, colored and biased,
>>    compressed and tweaked as best to fit our little brains.
>>
> Well exactl,. 'authentic' is eh sort of word the Left uses,. Its cosy, 
> uplifting morallu pure and essentially meaningless.
> 
>>    The Buddha was kind of right when he said All Is
>>    Illusion. (note Plato's Allegory Of The Cave ...
>>    similar ultimate conclusion, but, after what
>>    happened to Socrates, he didn't dare finish the
>>    thought).
> 
> See Kant Shopenhauer and latterly Popper
>>
>>    At very best, well, we're "Goo-Ware" ... evolved to
>>    best fit THIS kind of world.
> 
> Or is this world merely the only way we can see a reality that is way 
> beyond us anyway?


   Kinda YES ... we are what we are, as capable as we're
   capable, both in senses and intellect, products of this
   particular planet. Darwin tuned us THIS way because
   it WORKED PRETTY WELL. Some kind of abstract universal
   'truth' - was NOT in the evolutionary equation. "Useful
   Impression" was all.

   ALWAYS the view through "human-colored glasses".

   Plato and the Buddha were kind of contemporaries, and
   ideas DID flow between east and west.

   But, as said, after the Socrates Incident, I don't
   think Plato dared add that last paragraph to his
   'allegory'. Govt/theists would have murdered him.

   This is NOT all 'abstract' - note the new "AI"s by
   one or another technology. THEY have the SAME prob,
   exacerbated by being trained on data from most
   all humans, similarly afflicted.

   "Real" ??? Likely some kind of 10-dimensional
   temporally/causally-indistinct sub-quantum sort
   of thing. We CAN'T really grasp it - and even if
   we could it wouldn't usefully inform our daily
   lives.

   And that seems to be "reality". Sucks eh ?

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#71735

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-20 10:35 +0100
Message-ID<10844s7$7mtq$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71707
On 20/08/2025 05:50, c186282 wrote:
> "Real" ??? Likely some kind of 10-dimensional
>    temporally/causally-indistinct sub-quantum sort
>    of thing. We CAN'T really grasp it - and even if
>    we could it wouldn't usefully inform our daily
>    lives.
> 
You are getting there :-)
Time Space merely being an emergent property of quantum entanglement

>    And that seems to be "reality". Sucks eh ?

Not really. It is what it is.

"The world is everything that is the case" Said Wittgenstein, thereby 
absolving himself of any need to inquire into its nature.

Sometimes Germans can be such wankers.


-- 
Any fool can believe in principles -  and most of them do!


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#71652

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse>
Date2025-08-19 21:58 +1000
Message-ID<1081ot9$3ngjf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71625
On 19/08/2025 4:38 pm, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/18/25 12:51 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 18/08/2025 13:28, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 17/08/2025 11:23 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-17 03:31, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:20:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital
>>>>>> representation of an Analogue waveform which, in theory,
>>>>>> has an infinite number of samples per second.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don’t believe that nonsense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is easy enough to put an oscilloscope on the output of a
>>>>> DAC to prove that it can reproduce pure waves (like sine
>>>>> waves or more complex signals) as cleanly as you like, with
>>>>> no hint of the original sample rate anywhere in that
>>>>> waveform.
>>>> 
>>>> To have that "infinite number of samples" you need an infinite
>>>>  bandwidth, which analog electronics doesn't have, nor our 
>>>> mechanical-biological sensors have.
>>>> 
>>> "infinite number of samples" .... that's what you get when you
>>> listen to the REAL Sound!!
>> 
>> No. it isn't.
>> 
>> Perhaps a trip back to physics classes and 'Brownian motion' will 
>> enlighten you
> 
> True. Human senses - audio, visual or whatever - do not have
> "infinite resolution".
> 
> What IS there is constantly influenced, biased, by a bunch of other
> subtle things. There is no such thing as an 'authentic experience' -
> it's all dependent, processes and sub-processed, colored and biased, 
> compressed and tweaked as best to fit our little brains.

And what MY Brains tell ME is perfect IS PERFECT for ME!!

Might not be right for you .... but that's your problem. ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#71603

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-08-19 01:10 +0000
Message-ID<1080itr$3f9p0$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71575
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 22:28:01 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

> "infinite number of samples" .... that's what you get when you
> listen to the REAL Sound!!

But you don’t have an infinite number of audio-sensitive cells in your
ears, or an infinite bandwidth of neural connection to your brain, or
an infinite number of processing cells in your auditory cortex ...
what you hear in your head is nowhere near the full reality of sound.

That’s why “lossy” audio compression algorithms work: they throw away
the stuff your brain is incapable of noticing anyway.

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